When are you going fully electric?

re-invention - V that's the way to do it - almost want a prime subscription from father xmas.

So far, Renault has been stingy with technical details and has not provided any information on the battery or range. The only thing the French company has revealed is the motorisation, namely that the car is rear-wheel drive like its predecessors. Two wheel-hub motors are used, which are integrated into the rear wheels and are expected to deliver a total output of more than 500 hp (368 kW). This enables the Renault 5 Turbo 3E to sprint from zero to 100 kph in only 3.5 seconds
If you want to see the Renault 5 Turbo 3E on TV, there is a new documentary series called ‘Anatomy of a Comeback’ (from 13 December) that traces how the Renault Group reinvented itself in recent years. At the end of the fourth episode, there is a scene about the R5 Turbo 3E: while Luca de Meo, CEO of the Renault Group, Fabrice Cambolive, CEO of the Renault brand, and Gilles Vidal, VP Design Renault Brand, visit the design department, the new Renault 5 Turbo 3E can be seen, confirmed by Luca de Meo as the upcoming production model.

Stay tuned, as the R5 Turbo 3E will soon be available as a limited-edition release.

be the first to reserve R5 Turbo 3E
 
Our Mini has broken again. Time for a new one, may as well go electric this time. Wife only does a few miles each day in it, probably why it breaks, an electric is perfect for the mileage. Don’t know anything about getting chargers on the house etc though. Will see if they have any suitable 1 year olds or so or whether they have any deals on new cars.
 
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Our Mini has broken again. Time for a new one, may as well go electric this time. Wife only does a few miles each day in it, probably why it breaks, an electric is perfect for the mileage. Don’t know anything about getting chargers on the house etc though. Will see if they have any suitable 1 year olds or so or whether they have any deals on new cars.
Will you be sticking with Mini? The electric ones seems to get decent reviews, especially as a town car where the slightly lower range causes no issues.
 
Our Mini has broken again. Time for a new one, may as well go electric this time.

New Mini is horrid, no idea why they've made it the way they have and the pricing is just lol. Will she only have Mini's? Plenty of great nearly new bargains out there other than that.
 
New Mini is horrid, no idea why they've made it the way they have and the pricing is just lol. Will she only have Mini's? Plenty of great nearly new bargains out there other than that.

Possibly. Needs to be something small. Are there any viable alternatives?

Will you be sticking with Mini? The electric ones seems to get decent reviews, especially as a town car where the slightly lower range causes no issues.

I don’t think range will ever be an issue, probably 3-5 miles max per day plus chargers where she parks. Anything else I should be showing her?
 
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Possibly. Needs to be something small. Are there any viable alternatives?
Probably not if you're buying right now... not many good small BEVs there. Would you look at an e208?

The Renault 5 looks like it will be great but few months until they are out

 
Possibly. Needs to be something small. Are there any viable alternatives?



I don’t think range will ever be an issue, probably 3-5 miles max per day plus chargers where she parks. Anything else I should be showing her?
For 3-5 miles per day, I'd not want to spend 'new' money on an EV with depreciation as it is..

Second hand, you have plenty of options, save the money, £10k-£14k gets a range of smaller/quirky cars:

2018 BMW i3? will be around £10k-£11k for something with 30k-40k miles.. very unique, will never be repeated, and compact/nippy and might hold their value quite well.

Fiat 500e - 2021/2's 42kwh for <£12k interesting design, some will have warranty left.
Fiat 500e C - that full length fold back roof adds some 'fun'.. under £14k for a very low mile 2022 with warranty left.

etc..

Basically my Mrs still says she liked her VW ID.3, £14k will get a low mileage 58kwh entry level (2021), 2080bhp, 260 mile range, all come with adaptive cruise as standard.. golf sized on the outside, larger on the inside..
 
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For 3-5 miles per day, I'd not want to spend 'new' money on an EV with depreciation as it is..

Second hand, you have plenty of options, save the money, £10k-£14k gets a range of smaller/quirky cars:

2018 BMW i3? will be around £10k-£11k for something with 30k-40k miles.. very unique, will never be repeated, and compact/nippy and might hold their value quite well.

Fiat 500e - 2021/2's 42kwh for <£12k interesting design, some will have warranty left.
Fiat 500e C - that full length fold back roof adds some 'fun'.. under £14k for a very low mile 2022 with warranty left.

etc..

Basically my Mrs still says she liked her VW ID.3, £14k will get a low mileage 58kwh entry level (2021), 2080bhp, 260 mile range, all come with adaptive cruise as standard.. golf sized on the outside, larger on the inside..

There are a couple of decent Fiat 500es just round the corner from here. Apparently a reversing camera is a requirement of the wife, trying to work out whether they have one. A lot cheaper than a mini that’s for sure. There’s a 2023 there, probably wouldn’t work out too different in price after selling the mini.
 
Possibly. Needs to be something small. Are there any viable alternatives?

A few, if looking recent then a Smart #1 is a nice alternate to a Mini, decent interior if getting the higher trim and used/nearly new pricing is good. If she does little miles and wants something that is a very rare sight but a lovely car (IMO) the Honda-E, the costs LOL money new, but are now down to reasonable levels for city car driving, and again the interior is wonderful (IMO). lastly as a bit of a curve ball (if you can find a good price) the Alfa Romeo Junior Speciale, not my cup of tea but an option in the smaller segment cars, however I don't think the interior is as good as the price suggests.
 
It probably won't fit the bill styling wise but for low mileage users the Mazda MX-30 is crazy value because they were slated by the motoring press for their poor range.

Agreed these make great second cars but you’d be mad to buy a new one, utterly mad.

It was throughly rejected by the market because it’s just too compromised as a car.

Your typical mainstream buyer simply scoffs at the idea that you can release a brand new car with a 100-120 mile range in 2020/21 at the the price they were originally asking for it. It’s also got rear doors which as any i3 owner will tell you just don’t work for the target customer of this car. For example the person that just does the nursery/school run etc.

Its like they took all the worse bits from the Honda e (range, price) and the i3 (rear doors) and mashed it into their own car. It’s a complete joke of a compliance car and I’m not surprised it’s a commercial failure, the world has moved on since the Nissan Leaf launched in 2011 but Mazda didn’t get the memo.
 
Now 54 kWh. Keep up with EV world if you are going to preach?

Harry’s garage was amusing, he was liking the range but then moaning how it’s now too heavy.
 
Our Mini has broken again. Time for a new one, may as well go electric this time. Wife only does a few miles each day in it, probably why it breaks, an electric is perfect for the mileage. Don’t know anything about getting chargers on the house etc though. Will see if they have any suitable 1 year olds or so or whether they have any deals on new cars.
Check out the Kona second hand. Really well priced ATM, and looks kinda cool if you get the new shape one.

For chargers - if she's only doing 3/4 miles a day, don't waste a grand on a proper EV charger. Just get a good quality granny charger and plug it into an outdoor socket.
 
Check out the Kona second hand. Really well priced ATM, and looks kinda cool if you get the new shape one.

For chargers - if she's only doing 3/4 miles a day, don't waste a grand on a proper EV charger. Just get a good quality granny charger and plug it into an outdoor socket.

Perfect, we have an outdoor socket not too far away. Is there a max length? Could get a socket put on the front of the house easily I guess
 
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Now 54 kWh. Keep up with EV world if you are going to preach?

Harry’s garage was amusing, he was liking the range but then moaning how it’s now too heavy.

How is it preaching? the car you can actually buy is really not great.

Anyway, 54kwh is much more sensible for a car of this size and target market.
 
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