When are you going fully electric?

dlockers said:
Cheers Demon/Born.

Can it help my wife reverse onto the drive? That would be a total game changer. It's like a reverse bay park but you have to dodge my E43 and a wall - so it is pretty tight.
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You need enhanced ap (£3400) for auto park, however for situational 360 awareness, the teslavision view helps my Mrs park at work, a space others in fiestas won’t park, she can get in fine with the Model Y..

The reverse assistant in the BMW is ace, but still needs a defined space doesn’t it? The feature that just remembers your parking manoeuvres and does them in reverse is also useful if you pull in a gap but are unsure getting out..
 
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Having just done a bit of a longer drive in my Model Y (Liverpool to Edinburgh and back via Leeds), I absolutely curse Tesla's choice to have all their systems based on cameras alone instead of a combination of real sensors augmented by camera. It is a poor, poor choice.

Yesterday, while driving down from Edinburgh, we left before sunrise and before long the sun was extremely low in the sky. As soon as this happened the cruise control just kept giving up and slamming on the anchors because the cameras were blinded by the low sun and slightly wet road surface. Add into this: the "automatic" wipers trying to detect water through the cameras instead of a 50p water sensor like every other car, and don't bother wiping the half the time, or wipe on fast speed for one drop of water the other half; no radar parking sensors means it's a best guess how close you actually are to the wall in front of you; trying to combine most functions onto only two steering column stalks while relegating wiper control to the screen (initially at least, now you can control the wipers through a mess of pressing the single wipe button on the indicator stalk, then using a steering wheel scroll wheel to go through each setting displayed only on the central screen); the lack of a dashboard right in front of the driver (or a HUD as an even better choice); constant warnings the cameras are "blinded" simply because it's dark or the roadside scenery is too boring; lack of a speed limiter and many other quibbles mean I'm actively looking forward to getting rid of the car even though I've got three years to go on my lease :p
 
Been watching Ed China's latest vid on YT. quite nice to see somebody just getting on with it without any bias. Battery repair really isnt all that much difference to engine rebuilds. Once EV's are established in the next 5 or 10 years, the car repair industry will look very different. It will sadly take out people like my dad as at his age the appetite to learn isnt there anymore.
 
squerble said:
Having just done a bit of a longer drive in my Model Y (Liverpool to Edinburgh and back via Leeds), I absolutely curse Tesla's choice to have all their systems based on cameras alone instead of a combination of real sensors augmented by camera. It is a poor, poor choice.

Yesterday, while driving down from Edinburgh, we left before sunrise and before long the sun was extremely low in the sky. As soon as this happened the cruise control just kept giving up and slamming on the anchors because the cameras were blinded by the low sun and slightly wet road surface. Add into this: the "automatic" wipers trying to detect water through the cameras instead of a 50p water sensor like every other car, and don't bother wiping the half the time, or wipe on fast speed for one drop of water the other half; no radar parking sensors means it's a best guess how close you actually are to the wall in front of you; trying to combine most functions onto only two steering column stalks while relegating wiper control to the screen (initially at least, now you can control the wipers through a mess of pressing the single wipe button on the indicator stalk, then using a steering wheel scroll wheel to go through each setting displayed only on the central screen); the lack of a dashboard right in front of the driver (or a HUD as an even better choice); constant warnings the cameras are "blinded" simply because it's dark or the roadside scenery is too boring; lack of a speed limiter and many other quibbles mean I'm actively looking forward to getting rid of the car even though I've got three years to go on my lease :p
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One of the reasons I got a 2022 Model Y was to get one that still had the ultrasonic sensors. It still lets you revert from using 'Tesla Vision' which is definitely half-blind most of the time to using the sensors and I find that it's just far more reliable for parking and Autopilot. You still get the nonsense phantom breaking on occasion and I still much prefer the radar cruise control that we've got on the Discovery, but it's usable at least.
The lack of proper rain sensors drives me up the wall, to the point where I never use 'Auto' any more. Mercifully they at least put a quick setting toggle so you can tap the left stalk button in and then left scroll wheel to choose your wiper setting.

Besides the cost, I much prefer doing longer journeys in the Discovery, the cruise control works reliably, it's more comfortable on it's air suspension and big seats and the boot is a more practical shape when you really need to load it up - the Model Y gets used for all of the shorter family stuff and my city commute, and to be fair it's pretty great for that.
 
MrRockliffe said:
There are upsides to driving a boat

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May I suggest one of these? - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07TLK42B7?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1
We haven't got a dog but I carry a lot of music gear around plus lots of other dirty stuff and this is a Godsend.
I cut the side bits off and it remains in the car because it can't be seen when the seats are up.

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SexyGreyFox said:
May I suggest one of these? - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07TLK42B7?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1
We haven't got a dog but I carry a lot of music gear around plus lots of other dirty stuff and this is a Godsend.
I cut the side bits off and it remains in the car because it can't be seen when the seats are up.

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Have thought about one, but I seldom need to use the car for carrying duties.


My grandfather was in a band and I remember the constant weekly lugging of keyboard + mixer + speakers.



The dog is a great idea though :D
 
Spleen Sauce said:
The lack of proper rain sensors drives me up the wall, to the point where I never use 'Auto' any more. Mercifully they at least put a quick setting toggle so you can tap the left stalk button in and then left scroll wheel to choose your wiper setting.
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Yep, that "upgrade" helped a little, improved again when they changed it from the side-to-side button to the scroll wheel, and then again recently where pressing the single wipe button while you're in one of the "manual" settings moves it to the next fastest setting. So say you have setting 2 (fast intermittent), pressing single wipe will then move it up to setting 3 (continuous) etc.

Still, give me a dedicated stalk every day. It's so much more tactile.
 
This might give others an idea.
We got fed up of opening the gates to get the cable so I fitted another wall mount holder outside - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0D53Z71P2?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title
We never need to look at the Zappi because of Octopus iGo so we've also covered the Zappi toilet seat with a rucksack cover - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387482197678?var=654746244969
Also bought a magnetic rain cover when charging the car - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204890513952
Yes I know everything is supposed to be waterproof but hey ho.

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