When are you going fully electric?

Have you priced up Scenic insurance? We priced up an Aryia (same car basically ) and it was under £450.
Wife is a reasonably new driver with no no claims so it just wouldn't be worth the time.

Indeed, and no tyres etc, but I guess some lease are maintained and serviced?

But tbh the gross isnt really interesting, the main is the monthly cost (and P11D now )
Yeah you can get serviced ones.

Ironically actual cost is a bit irrelevant to me for the next 3 years. The new childcare benefit means I won't be seeing a net pay increase for a long while!
 
the Mokka's been mocking me on it's range 70% of 50Kwh left - trip comp reported 2.8m/Kwh, during 6mile roundtrip to supermarket (fuel less than cheapest basket article - last picking of JS xmas 6 mince pies=15p.)
in parallel also says it's range would be 140, but 2.8 using that 70% left = 100 miles, 70 odd miles ago it was brimmed - who do I trust.

(haven't played any Mokadelic, usually on my playlist, in the Mokka or soul.)
It's an estimation, not a crystal ball. If you continue to do 6 mile trips from cold (therefore requiring energy to heat the cabin and the recurring effect of a stone cold battery) then probably nearer your estimation.
 

"Despite the year-end surge, automakers failed to hit the annual target of 22% under the country's EV sales mandate. Manufacturers face fines of as much as £15,000 ($18,600) per vehicle for failing to comply, though can avoid penalties by using a credits-trading system and exceeding requirements in later years

The UK government is now reviewing the rules, which could result in increased flexibilities to help manufacturers meet them. Clean-energy advocates have criticized efforts to water down the quota, arguing doing so will slow the shift away from the combustion engine.

The EV sales target rises to 28% this year, which SMMT Chief Executive Officer Mike Hawes said will be very difficult to meet. Discounts fueling current demand are unsustainable, he told reporters."
 
those pre-reg will sidestep the luxury car premium so maybe popular (scenic for dlockers ?) the new byd garage in Pboro had a lot of cars, maybe to beat any import taxation too...
but don't think we have yet followed Ursula.
 
Wife's EV going back after a 4 year lease in march. Think we are going for another EV (used) hopefully at a decent discount.

Nissan Leaf look reasonable even though a little old hat now. Seems to be more choice new also, so will trawl lease deals again, but ain't going to get near the 200 quid a month with maintenance for a Hyundai ionic that will be ending.
 
Wife's EV going back after a 4 year lease in march. Think we are going for another EV (used) hopefully at a decent discount.

Nissan Leaf look reasonable even though a little old hat now. Seems to be more choice new also, so will trawl lease deals again, but ain't going to get near the 200 quid a month with maintenance for a Hyundai ionic that will be ending.
Leaf was pretty old hat when it was released. Go something else if you can... MG 4, MG ZS, Kona ec
 
Wife's EV going back after a 4 year lease in march. Think we are going for another EV (used) hopefully at a decent discount.

Nissan Leaf look reasonable even though a little old hat now. Seems to be more choice new also, so will trawl lease deals again, but ain't going to get near the 200 quid a month with maintenance for a Hyundai ionic that will be ending.

Why not just buy the Ioniq from the lease company?
 
Is there any indication that the government might bring back any kind of EV grants or incentives this year, or is that all done and dusted now? I know there were some talks going on with car manufacturers at the end of last year. I am swaying more and more towards getting a Renault 5 this year and the popularity of it suggests Renault/dealers probably won't need to offer much in the way of discounts on them for a while.
 
Is there any indication that the government might bring back any kind of EV grants or incentives this year, or is that all done and dusted now? I know there were some talks going on with car manufacturers at the end of last year. I am swaying more and more towards getting a Renault 5 this year and the popularity of it suggests Renault/dealers probably won't need to offer much in the way of discounts on them for a while.
No chance, certainly not on a new car. They are starting to wind out the remaining incentives for company car owners.

Ultimately EV's are cheaper to own over the lifetime of the vehicle if you can charge at home (if you cant, wait), they don't need incentives. Sure depreciation is a bit of an issue at the moment but there are lots of reasons for that and isn't likely to be sustained once the mass market wake up.

Are you looking to buy/own outright or is it a 'company car'? If the former, I wouldn't buy a new one, there are so many bargains in the used market at the moment and you'll get a hell of a lot more car there for the same money.

You can get a 1 year old Meganne e-tech for £20k which will probably be what the early Renault 5's go for given the base spec has an RRP of £22k and the top spec starts at £26k. The Meganne is a batter car in every way IMO, well except nostalgic retro styling.
 
No chance, certainly not on a new car. They are starting to wind out the remaining incentives for company car owners.

Ultimately EV's are cheaper to own over the lifetime of the vehicle if you can charge at home (if you cant, wait), they don't need incentives. Sure depreciation is a bit of an issue at the moment but there are lots of reasons for that and isn't likely to be sustained once the mass market wake up.

Are you looking to buy/own outright or is it a 'company car'? If the former, I wouldn't buy a new one, there are so many bargains in the used market at the moment and you'll get a hell of a lot more car there for the same money.

You can get a 1 year old Meganne e-tech for £20k which will probably be what the early Renault 5's go for given the base spec has an RRP of £22k and the top spec starts at £26k. The Meganne is a batter car in every way IMO, well except nostalgic retro styling.

Thanks, figured as much. I can't charge at home but my mileage is low so a "full charge" would last me weeks, and there's finally some decent charging options appearing at supermarkets, shopping centres etc around where I live/visit so I think it'd be easy enough to live with.

I'd be buying outright, my employer offers an EV salary sacrifice scheme but the R5 is rather pricey on there at the moment. The BMW i4 eDrive35 M Sport us cheaper per month, for example. I wouldn't normally ever consider buying a new car but the R5 has done something funny to my brain, common sense will likely kick back in at some point though.

I'll likely wait and see what nearly-new R5 prices are like later in the year once the initial hype has quelled, at this point my shortlist is between that or a SEAT Leon.
 
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