When are you going fully electric?

it's going to be all change then at the MSA's pretty soon by the sound of things. I do wonder what the traditional fuel providers are allowed to do with their forecourt area, I wonder if they will be allowed to add as many chargers as they like/capacity allows? You'd then effectively have 3 or 4 providers on one MSA, with Ecotricity, Gridserve, Tesla (at a lot) and BP/Shell/etc.

Also all the 300 Ecotricity chargers replaced by the end of summer sounds good, especially since they can charge two vehicles at once. 150kW versions?
 
I think Moto had the main monololy? welcome break Corley M6 north has just had 8 InstaVolt chargers install. Bit too local for me to be useful though :D
 
VincentHanna said:
Similar image as before, but Polestar 2 next to Model Y

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That Model Y does look like a lardy SUV in comparison. The front should follow the curves instead of terminating in a duck face. Is that due to some EU pedestrian safety directive it's having to conform to?

Something like this. Forgive the very quick and nasty photoshop.

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Huge funding from Hitachi to upgrade the 2 chargers and then increase to 6. You read it before commenting?
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I did but they got huge funding from the government to put the original chargers in then didn’t maintain them. So in 18 months time we’ll have 6 broken CCS chargers rather than 2 if they don’t improve the maintenance. And it’s still a monopoly.
 
I don't think it was huge? Some credit due for Dale atleast starting the electric Highway. Government transport minister has already confirmed the review to dissolve that monopoly - good info and source here. I don't know why you are articulating your point as if you are closer to it than you actually are. :confused: Energy sappers bore me. :D
 
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I think you need to read your last couple of posts and think really hard about the way someone might read them.

Gridserve are brand new. They have money behind them. Great. All their devices are new. Great. They are what Ecotricity was sometime back. Ecotricity are renowned as the worst of the charge station providers. Not because they didn’t have vision. They got off their backsides and they got government grants to install all those chargers. That’s perfectly laudable. No. Ecotricity are the worst charge provider because they simply don’t maintain their network. What I was (perfectly reasonably) pointing out is that if Ecotricity don’t maintain the lovely new chargers they’re installing this time then we’ll just have the same issues again in 18 months.

Now if you consider that unreasonable, then report my post. I certainly consider the tone of your responses unreasonable.

And as for pretending I’m closer to to it than I am, do you know Dale personally? In which case tell him to get his finger out and fix a few chargers, or if you don’t, well. Pot. Kettle. Black.
 
Says gridserve were taking over the back end support. Guess I’m a glass half full person.

I just thought we could move beyond stating the obvious and I felt this was some positive news. Didn’t need your endorsement.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Says gridserve were taking over the back end support. Guess I’m a glass half full person.

I just thought we could move beyond stating the obvious and I felt this was some positive news. Didn’t need your endorsement.
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When did you last use an Ecotricity charger?
 
Never cos they are crap :D for me is the muggles using newer better maintained that will help and result in less of those “I couldn’t charge” YouTube videos.

EDIT: apologies for the tension.
 
I use Ecotricity chargers. When I first got the Leaf 4 years ago, I regularly found ones that were offline. However since they changed the software so a 'user' can do a reset - I've found them mostly fine and reliable.

I expect most issues come from the abuse they get from a minority of poeple using them. Mashing the emergency reset button instead of ending the charge via the app, and I suspect other more brute force methods to circumvent paying.
 
Most issues for most cars come from the CCS Protocol handshake - its ancient on those chargers and non updated, which is why the Chaedmo vehicles have a much better success rate - far less complex and hence where V2G trials also operate.

CCS has come along way since those chargers were installed.
 
Bug One said:
I use Ecotricity chargers. When I first got the Leaf 4 years ago, I regularly found ones that were offline. However since they changed the software so a 'user' can do a reset - I've found them mostly fine and reliable.

I expect most issues come from the abuse they get from a minority of poeple using them. Mashing the emergency reset button instead of ending the charge via the app, and I suspect other more brute force methods to circumvent paying.
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I think the benefit Leaf owners have is that the ChaDeMo connection is only used by Leaf whereas everyone else uses the CCS connectors and people are pretty rough with them. They drop them on the ground and generally don’t care. If you look on Zap Map the ChDeMo connectors usually work whereas the CCS connectors are usually broken. Plus I think Leaf drivers are just a bit more clued up in general.
 
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I think the benefit Leaf owners have is that the ChaDeMo connection is only used by Leaf whereas everyone else uses the CCS connectors and people are pretty rough with them. They drop them on the ground and generally don’t care. If you look on Zap Map the ChDeMo connectors usually work whereas the CCS connectors are usually broken. Plus I think Leaf drivers are just a bit more clued up in general.
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I think you had to be to be a Leaf driver. If you're driving an EV with ~60 miles range, you need to be organised and able to plan your journeys. Plus you appreciate those chargers a bit more. :p
 
Is there anyone in this thread doing "travelling salesman" miles in an EV ? Our company car scheme just picked up some good rates in EVs and I am seriously considering making the leap as my Lexus hits 200k - but I need to make sure I can still handle 200 mile days, and potentially the odd 250-300 mile stint at the start and end of a week without making life a complete misery.

From what I can tell , the Tesla Model 3 LR is still the go-to for all out range (esp. given the Superchargers) ?

Ps. I know there are 100 better ICE cars for this, including just replacing my Lexus - but I am feeling the need for something futuristic and flash, I need a pick me up after a decade of spending 2-3hrs a day in a mid 2000s Japanese interior of some sort or another!
 
Nomisf said:
Is there anyone in this thread doing "travelling salesman" miles in an EV ? Our company car scheme just picked up some good rates in EVs and I am seriously considering making the leap as my Lexus hits 200k - but I need to make sure I can still handle 200 mile days, and potentially the odd 250-300 mile stint at the start and end of a week without making life a complete misery.

From what I can tell , the Tesla Model 3 LR is still the go-to for all out range (esp. given the Superchargers) ?

Ps. I know there are 100 better ICE cars for this, including just replacing my Lexus - but I am feeling the need for something futuristic and flash, I need a pick me up after a decade of spending 2-3hrs a day in a mid 2000s Japanese interior of some sort or another!
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25-30,000 miles per year here. The Tesla’s are just better for your planning as they know how far you can go and what chargers are working and are likely to be available. Plus they charge pretty fast. And fixed price 23p/kW (from memory).

But the Tesla’s don’t do the range they promise. More like 85% on the motorway. So if you’re working on 330 miles and you’re charging to 80% at the first stop and you’re giving yourself a 20% buffer at the end your theoretical between charge range is 330 x 60% = 198 miles and if you’re on the motorway and keeping up with the traffic it’s really 170 miles.

So the reality is you drive 2 hours and charge for 25 minutes then do it again and again. So your 300 mile stint is going to be two stints - maybe 170 miles then 130 miles with a short (20-30 minute charging stop in between). You just learn to plan and to enjoy the stops.
 
Basher said:
Judging by the latest firmware I'd say the beta test is still very much alive :p
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The recent OTA update didn't go too badly for Polestar. Also, there aren't many other car manufacturers being so transparent with their failures

Polestar update data
In the UK:
- 1055 deployed cars
- 89,81% successful installations
- 12 towed cars
 
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