When are you going fully electric?

Yeah, my previous diesel car didn’t do so well on MPG for these short trips either !
Also, my charging rate is 7.5p :)

So in this short trip scenario it costs me 6.4p per mile, rather than about 2p per mile on a longer journey. That’s the point !
Unfortunately, not everyone can access that rate.
 
With who? the guys i know who have Tesla's dont get it.

That’s because they haven’t bothered moving.

Octopus go, available to anyone with an EV, the rate is 30p/7.5p, fixed for a year. EDF have an equivalent also?

I don’t use it but that’s only because I am fixed at a much lower day rate and it’s not worth it but if I wasn’t or my mileage increases to make it worth it, I’ll move.
 
As soon as the warranty reflects that, I'd agree.
100,000 miles is still more than most ICE car warranties. In fact I’m not sure of any ICE vehicles that have more than that. I would expect most ICEs have much lower warranties. The average age of a scrapped vehicle is 106k miles so ICEs don’t last anything like as long.
 
No engine oil is not preheated on a PHEV, would be pretty crap for trips when the engine didn’t start…


Why would anyone really care about that sort of detail of energy breakdown aswell.

I did read somewhere in the manual for the x5 that the petrol engine is pre heated by the battery pack so its "warm" ready for when its needed. Ill see if I can find it.
 
Yes yes, green energy blah blah. Problem is, 90% of consumers want cheap.

Having to buy an EV to then basically pay the same cost to fuel it.. doesn't shout cheap.

Plus that battery will degrade by 15 years... normal ICE may still be absolutely fine and dandy.

EVs, are no where near being a suitable long term replacement. Especially with the cost to power them shooting up.

i doubt the trips will get a petrol 30mpg anyway. Nothing like a bit of data skewing.

mate diesels in town stink. The end.
 
I did read somewhere in the manual for the x5 that the petrol engine is pre heated by the battery pack so its "warm" ready for when its needed. Ill see if I can find it.

it won’t be.

With who? the guys i know who have Tesla's dont get it.

that’s probably the issue. The car they have…

Equally… Why is the car bothering to try warm up the battery too?

cos it’s “legacy automakers” crap (code for doesn’t want to thrash the HV components unlike others)
 
It's fine until you want to drive a few hundred miles over the weekend or something, while that is not every weekend or perhaps even every month, when it happens it becomes a right pain in the proverbial.

I don't use my car for commuting and I wouldn't consider living off a 3 pin long term. It was 'okay' for the 2 weeks I didn't have a charge point but it wouldn't cut it long term as you really don't need to drive very far for it to become a problem. I want to be able to get home empty and the next day it be back up to 100% again and not have to worry about it.

We still have a petrol car in my wifes car so we are covered on that. As i said also i will most likely charge it at work every week/fortnight for free. They have 3.3w(?) Chargers. If it proves to be a problem I can get one installed. Hopefully they will get cheaper to install the more evs become common and the more companies start doing it.

I don't need my current car (octavia vrs) just can't do without that acceleration hit :p. The 208e isn't much slower to 60 so should still get it and hopefully run it for free.
 
Yes yes, green energy blah blah. Problem is, 90% of consumers want cheap.

Having to buy an EV to then basically pay the same cost to fuel it.. doesn't shout cheap.

Plus that battery will degrade by 15 years... normal ICE may still be absolutely fine and dandy.

EVs, are no where near being a suitable long term replacement. Especially with the cost to power them shooting up.
You're right. It's probably not for you.
 
i doubt the trips will get a petrol 30mpg anyway. Nothing like a bit of data skewing.

mate diesels in town stink. The end.
Its not "the end" though is it.

I 100% agree, diesel stinks. same for petrol imo.

BUT, and here is the real issue. 90% of joe public, dont give a rats arse.. as long as the car is cheap. (EV isnt cheap, esp second hand.. fear of needing a new battery too. expensive stuff)
 
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