When are you going fully electric?
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The Buzz looks the part but as a van its kind of small and as a car its a very expensive choice. And boy is it expensive once you tick the features you'd want to see when spending >£65k on a vehicle from VW.
some rather pricey options here:
£2700 for two tone paint
£1500 for 2" extra screen, a wireless charging pad, a couple of speakers and better nav software.
£1500 for traffic aware cruise, lane keep and change assist, cameras, heated steering wheel, door handle lights and an alarm/antitheft system
£2300 for powered seat adjustment with memory, adjustable lumbar support, better seats, heated front seats, another heated steering wheel and better carpets
£1000 Electric sliding door left right and power tail gate, more illuminated door handles, another anti theft system, and keyless entry.
so the one you actually want is >£72k which is a lot for small van. A very pretty small van mind!
For that sort of money you could get a fully kitted out brand new Transit with a crew cab and a used Model 3 with the change.
some rather pricey options here:
£2700 for two tone paint
£1500 for 2" extra screen, a wireless charging pad, a couple of speakers and better nav software.
£1500 for traffic aware cruise, lane keep and change assist, cameras, heated steering wheel, door handle lights and an alarm/antitheft system
£2300 for powered seat adjustment with memory, adjustable lumbar support, better seats, heated front seats, another heated steering wheel and better carpets
£1000 Electric sliding door left right and power tail gate, more illuminated door handles, another anti theft system, and keyless entry.
so the one you actually want is >£72k which is a lot for small van. A very pretty small van mind!
For that sort of money you could get a fully kitted out brand new Transit with a crew cab and a used Model 3 with the change.
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Makes the price of a model y at launch even more daft doesn’t it.
Hybrid. Get out
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Bad, it’s an EV with a screen of “technology”.
I've never really understood the purpose the i8 is trying to fulfill. It looks good for sure, but otherwise it's not particularly fast and has a total range less than some BEVs... It's comfortable enough, but a bit vague on the steering.
My mate had one, seemed hard to live with too if you need to use car parks
My mate had one, seemed hard to live with too if you need to use car parks
Yeah but doors lift up? And 4 seats!
It was a product of its time, more of a tech showcase than anything else. Comparing it to family car BEVs in 2023 seems a bit silly as it's a nearly 10 year old car that wasn't designed to be practical.
Still looks pretty awesome imo
Haha check out some videos of people getting in and out, it's not as straightforward as you would imagine.
The lift up is a must in the UK though as the car is so wide you wouldn't be able to get out at all in a car park!
Just completed a 270 mile each way break in the eNiro and have to say I'm impressed with a) How significantly better it is than the Zoe in every single way, and b) how much the public charging network has improved in the last couple of years.
Stopped at a pub with a 50kwh charger after 150 miles, ~90 miles worth of charge left, by the time we'd had a bite to eat and a coffee, we were back up to 215 miles range, more than enough to get to our hotel.
Arrived with ~90 miles again, plenty for driving around locally in Cornwall
Nipped out before breakfast the day we were due to leave while the other half was showering and popped the car on charge - again by the time we'd packed up and eaten we had over 200 miles range.
Stopped at Cribbs Causeway on the way back, Mollies Diner has 6x 100kw chargers in the car park, so a no brainer really, got there with 15 miles, 30 minute stop for some chips and a drink, back on the road again with 170 miles, and finally home with 80 left.
Was doing 70 on GPS basically the whole way on the motorway, averaging 3.7m/kwh, and every charger I just used contactless with my bank card, no faffing around with apps/rfid etc. all in all a non-event, and certainly not the nightmare EV naysayers would have you believe!
Stopped at a pub with a 50kwh charger after 150 miles, ~90 miles worth of charge left, by the time we'd had a bite to eat and a coffee, we were back up to 215 miles range, more than enough to get to our hotel.
Arrived with ~90 miles again, plenty for driving around locally in Cornwall
Nipped out before breakfast the day we were due to leave while the other half was showering and popped the car on charge - again by the time we'd packed up and eaten we had over 200 miles range.
Stopped at Cribbs Causeway on the way back, Mollies Diner has 6x 100kw chargers in the car park, so a no brainer really, got there with 15 miles, 30 minute stop for some chips and a drink, back on the road again with 170 miles, and finally home with 80 left.
Was doing 70 on GPS basically the whole way on the motorway, averaging 3.7m/kwh, and every charger I just used contactless with my bank card, no faffing around with apps/rfid etc. all in all a non-event, and certainly not the nightmare EV naysayers would have you believe!
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This is the sort of real world testing I like reading about. Out of interest, how much did you spend versus the mileage driven?
Car was fully charged when we left, so ~64kw @ 7.5p/kw = £4.80, let's round that up to £5.50 to account for 10-15% efficiency losses
£26.22 at the first pub on the way down
£30 hold on my card for the morning before we left, the actual charge hasn't gone through yet, but - iirc it was around £26-28, same as before
£28.13 at Cribbs Causeway on the way back up
Total: ~£87 for 570 miles (270 each way, about 30 while we were down there), so ~15p/mile, which is roughly on par with an efficient diesel? Could have been a bit less by driving a bit slower or finding cheaper chargers, but it's finding the balance I guess.
£26.22 at the first pub on the way down
£30 hold on my card for the morning before we left, the actual charge hasn't gone through yet, but - iirc it was around £26-28, same as before
£28.13 at Cribbs Causeway on the way back up
Total: ~£87 for 570 miles (270 each way, about 30 while we were down there), so ~15p/mile, which is roughly on par with an efficient diesel? Could have been a bit less by driving a bit slower or finding cheaper chargers, but it's finding the balance I guess.
Tbh this is a great point because I got stuck at South Mimms and ended up spending 57p a kWh and a £30 lunch stop when I was only 10 miles from destination lol.
Actually it's less than that, would be 650 miles as I had 80 left when I got home, so more like 13p/mile.
In terms of food, the chips & drinks on the way back cost us less than £10, and yes, the burgers at the pub were a bit pricey, but we would have stopped somewhere for lunch anyway, and it wasn't too much more expensive for a proper burger vs the usual overpriced dry and tasteless burger king or whatever from a motorway services
In terms of food, the chips & drinks on the way back cost us less than £10, and yes, the burgers at the pub were a bit pricey, but we would have stopped somewhere for lunch anyway, and it wasn't too much more expensive for a proper burger vs the usual overpriced dry and tasteless burger king or whatever from a motorway services
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