When the Gpu's prices will go down ?

Brackish · 8 Jun 2023 at 20:51

With the performance being lower and prices being higher this gen would using DLSS not bridge the gap of performance Vs price of the last gen?
I don't have DLSS or FSR capable card so I don't know what it's like to use Vs native.

KompuKare · 8 Jun 2023 at 21:21

Brackish said:
With the performance being lower and prices being higher this gen would using DLSS not bridge the gap of performance Vs price of the last gen?
I don't have DLSS or FSR capable card so I don't know what it's like to use Vs native.

Don't buy into that nonsense!

Obviously Nvidia would like stagnated actual performance and offer DLSS 3.0, 4.0 etc. giving you fake frames and upscaling. But who would really to pay extra for fakery?

As for the earlier comments about the 4070 Ti giving 3099 performance: only while VRAM lasts! 12GB is pretty low in 2023!

Joxeon · 8 Jun 2023 at 22:14

Brackish said:
With the performance being lower and prices being higher this gen would using DLSS not bridge the gap of performance Vs price of the last gen?
I don't have DLSS or FSR capable card so I don't know what it's like to use Vs native.

DLSS is a nice feature to have but it’s should be seen as an optional extra since FG is only in less than 1% of games so it’s not something justify higher pricing and also if you rely on software solutions for fps then you’re at the mercy of Nvidia who can pull the plug or discontinue it in the future in favour of something else rendering your gpu a potato.

Zarax · 9 Jun 2023 at 06:57

I kinda wish AMD would troll people and release a "fake" FSR3 where in reality is just a slightly optimized FSR2 with the card spitting out framerate*1+(rand 0-2), how many people would notice the difference?
I subscribe to Jarred Walton's opinion: regardless of the frame number, DLSS3 fells 10-20% smoother at best.

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Gibbo · 9 Jun 2023 at 08:43

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keyser van someone · 9 Jun 2023 at 12:19

Calin Banc · 9 Jun 2023 at 22:21

Zarax said:
I kinda wish AMD would troll people and release a "fake" FSR3 where in reality is just a slightly optimized FSR2 with the card spitting out framerate*1+(rand 0-2), how many people would notice the difference?
I subscribe to Jarred Walton's opinion: regardless of the frame number, DLSS3 fells 10-20% smoother at best.

Have you played yourself with FG or is it just internet 2nd hand opinion?

In my experience, for a 60hz gamer, it can be about the same as native fps IF the game is coded right and hw is strong enough or thereabouts.

mrk · 10 Jun 2023 at 13:24

Never!

Nexus18 · 10 Jun 2023 at 13:28

mrk said:
Never!

You would think with all this chiplet talk and vram being so cheap, amd and nvidia would be selling these gpus for like £300..... :cry:

Tetras · 10 Jun 2023 at 14:15

mrk said:
Never!

"The more you buy, the more you save", clearly doesn't apply to nvidia and GDDR6

cyclonus10 · 10 Jun 2023 at 15:18

How much did Nvidia pay for their current stock of vRAM though? At the much higher prices they paid?

GhostDog1981 · 10 Jun 2023 at 18:17

Andye1985 said:
is then 7900XT at £800 a good price?

No! You can pick up a new 7900xt mba from OCUK for £728

str · 10 Jun 2023 at 18:29

What's a reasonable used price for a 3090 or 3090TI? Have prices dropped much or likely to significantly drop anytime soon?

gazref · 10 Jun 2023 at 21:05

I'm a none buyer but used prices of those cards should start with a 4 imo

gazref · 10 Jun 2023 at 21:07

A top end 2 year old 1440p card should not be much more than £400 used imo

rare · 10 Jun 2023 at 21:31

No way you are getting a 3090Ti for 4xx. There might be the odd exception but it’s still a high end card, albeit one beaten by more mid range current offerings. I would expect to pay £500-£600 for a 3090Ti and £450-£500 for a 3090. That seems a bit more reasonable. Of course, if you can get them cheaper…

gazref · 10 Jun 2023 at 21:50

If the new releases prices fall the whole.deck of.cards crumple

86dan · 11 Jun 2023 at 07:21

are 4080's likely to get under £1000 anytime soon? I bought a 4070ti but it was cancelled and re-listed at a higher price(scummy). Only way I can justify £1000 and no more is I sold my 3060ti for £250 so it will take it down to £750.

With the 3080 already struggling at 4k I don't want to get to a position where next year the 4080 does too as I want to keep the card for at least 3 - 4 years and only use a 4k tv now that does not support 1440p.

0h_no_not_again · 11 Jun 2023 at 08:18

mrk said:
Never!

The reporting on that piece of "data" is insane.

A redditor plotted the spot price of gddr6 Vs. time.

What people don't realise is, the spot market is waaaayyy more expensive than direct to supplier. Like, I've seems decent chunks of silicon go from £10 on the spot market to £1 via allocation...

One thing is that you generally get allocation at a set price 6 to 12 months before delivery, so you can get a lag in pricing. However, there's NV and their partners will definitely regotiate allocations at least 3 to 4 times a year with suppliers.