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Founders are £70 cheaper now by the looks of it and AIB models can be had for under the FE. This never happened last gen so it looks like they are not selling so well in the current conditions..
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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?
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A £70 price reduction is still above the original $1599 MSRP at the current exchange rate + 20% VAT.
A 70% performance uplift for 14% extra money is good if you're used to paying that much anyway but look at it from other peoples perspective further down, you have a 4080 which delivers 48% performance for 84% more money, a 4070ti which delivers 43% more performance for 52% more money, a 4070 which delivers +30% for 28% more money and a 4060ti which is around 10% faster for 8% more money so can you not see why most people are moaning.
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In terms of product stack, the 30 series was not linearly priced, which I think is a big part of the problem here. The 40 series is very linearly priced. So when you compare against say 3080fe which was very keenly priced it's not much of a value jump, but the 3090fe was only a bit faster than the 3080 but over double the price so terrible value. The 4090 is a fair bit faster than the 4080.
If it wasn't skewed by the last gen, linear pricing is actually a reasonable approach that we should have been pleased about.
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Thats how its been for years now and not just the 3000 series, the 2nd tier card never had a performance gap of 33-40% though, that sort of margin is where the 70 class usually sits.
Last gen wasn't skewed, linear pricing is not the norm and never has been. This generation is skewed.
Yup. Thus far it has been this gen and Turing like this. Really hope next gen we go back to a bit of sanity.
Im just praying 4070ti prices come down to £700 and then I'll cave and buy one, even though its still overpriced I cant see 4080 getting down to £900 unless second hand anytime this year.
£700 for a mid tier gpu that cant even do 4k properly is depressing to say the least, my next upgrade cycle will def be a console if the prices carry on.
£700 for a mid tier gpu that cant even do 4k properly is depressing to say the least, my next upgrade cycle will def be a console if the prices carry on.
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I got that sick of prices going up in general that i've side-stepped from a 1080 to a 1080Ti (more VRAM). Will wait until the 5XXX or whatever AMD brings in the future, skipping this generation.
Won't be paying these extortionate prices for GPU's along with half finished, buggy releases.
**** the lot of 'em.
Won't be paying these extortionate prices for GPU's along with half finished, buggy releases.
**** the lot of 'em.
Don't have a gpu and its been many months now so I did cave, off selling my 30606 ti for £250 took the sting out of it but it is still bad, really wanted a 4080 but no chance.
Look into used 3080/3080 Ti models.
Was looking at those but the problem with was my power supply, I'm using a sfx build with a 550w, I know a 4070ti will run off it with a 5600x and an undervolt but a 3080/ti probably wouldn't, £450 is what I just paid for the 4070ti so is not terrible after selling my old gpu. I reckon in a couple of years I can sell it for a good chunk and get a used 4080 at a more reasonable price.
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Yer, like the ATI 5850 was about 200 quid, then you could get the 5870 for 300 that was around 15% faster, those that didn't want to pay more already got near top tier.
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below are few observations from nvidia's consensus forecasts. consensus forecasts are typically averaged across all brokers covering the stock. so you typically have mutually independent research analysts from firms like BofA, Citi, BNPP, Barclays, RBS etc. doing their own thing which is then picked up by market aggrgators who summarize these forecasts.
Nvidia closes books in January -
Year|Revenue($b)|Operating margin
2023| 27 | 33.5%
2024| 43 | 50.2%
2025| 52 | 54.8%
2026| 64 | 56.0%
I am refering to the same source, that I have been for the past few posts. I find this stupendous. If they execute well, this could be one of the most successful corporate growth stories of the decade, doubt if the same could be said about PC gamers.
Btw I think provides official quarterly guidance, and they have guided $11 b for the current quarter.
Nvidia closes books in January -
Year|Revenue($b)|Operating margin
2023| 27 | 33.5%
2024| 43 | 50.2%
2025| 52 | 54.8%
2026| 64 | 56.0%
I am refering to the same source, that I have been for the past few posts. I find this stupendous. If they execute well, this could be one of the most successful corporate growth stories of the decade, doubt if the same could be said about PC gamers.
NVIDIA Corporation (NVDA) Stock Price | Stock Quote Nasdaq - MarketScreener
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Btw I think provides official quarterly guidance, and they have guided $11 b for the current quarter.
Those were the good times. The last time we had that was with the 3080. I saved around £800 and the difference was around 15%
That is what I want to see again going forward. Loads of people will still buy the top end card for various reasons, milk those guys
Those were the good times. The last time we had that was with the 3080. I saved around £800 and the difference was around 15%
That is what I want to see again going forward. Loads of people will still buy the top end card for various reasons, milk those guys
3080 had 85% of the performance of 3090 for 45% of its price. Was an excellent deal. However it did have some planned obsolescence in it with 10GB of vram at launch. Applying that to this generation, 4080 should have been priced at $630, rather than $1200. The relative value of 4080 is almost half of 3080 (at MSRP, for those of us who got them).
I'm not giving my money to Nvidia again until I can get good value for it.
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Too much value to worry about the obsolescence imo. Let's say next year Nvidia give me 4090 performance but with only 16GB for £799, I wont be sitting there wondering if that is enough vram for such performance.
There was no point worrying about the 10GB obsolescence issue and ending up going 3090 because of it. The money saved plus the sale of the 3080 would comfortably get you a 4080 today and that's with the 4080 being a looney price.
Let's hope more people skip this gen and Nvidia gets the message.
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Perhaps not but if your willing to go AMD I can see the XTX coming down to 900 and below this year.
The Nitro X is on a crazy offer right now.
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Not the case.
Historic series were fairly linear in pricing. Turing was slightly curved, and Ampere was heavily curved at the top end, with only minor gains from significantly more money in the 3080 Ti and above.
I prefer linear pricing. Want 30% more performance from the 4090 compared to the 4080? Ok and it comes with 30% more cost. Seems fair to me, provided the whole series is calibrated correctly which it isn't.