Exactly how I feel. I've waited so long now I feel like not giving my hard earned money to any of them. I don't blame retailers like OCUK as they have had to likely get in stock at higher prices rather than increasing their own profit margin. If the main players in all this price gauging have overproduced, very likely, then their stock can gather dust whilst I wait for price to fall further as it will if they've overproduced to get as much profit in as they can whilst demand, mainly from miners, has been high.
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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?
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Exactly how I feel. I've waited so long now I feel like not giving my hard earned money to any of them. I don't blame retailers like OCUK as they have had to likely get in stock at higher prices rather than increasing their own profit margin. If the main players in all this price gauging have overproduced, very likely, then their stock can gather dust whilst I wait for price to fall further as it will if they've overproduced to get as much profit in as they can whilst demand, mainly from miners, has been high.
It really is. The gap between model and Ti variant seems to be larger than the Ti and the next model up.
Kind of feels like the naming convention has gotten offset; like the 3060Ti should be the 3060, and the 3070 (only ~10% faster) should be the 3060Ti.
Yea and my 1660 Super isnt exactly struggling at 1080p either, i might even wait for the 4000 series.
Bought a 5700X from OcUK that arrived on Saturday, got a nice perf improvement from my 3900X, my GPU is the weakest link, but it isnt 'weak' for 1080p
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Even at sub £400, the 3060 would still be overpriced when you compare it with the 6600 which is £289.99. Yet sales are slow because 83% of gamers buy Nvidia for no other reason than the name.
AIB are more expensive when it comes to their MSRP. You get the rare bottom of the barrel cards from aib but the majority of their lines are more expensive. So Nvidia Fe prices are gonna be lower, what you need to do is add £50 or £100 quid and that's typical always
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and a big part of that is Nvidia charging the AIBs for chips/memory etc with some colossal margin that they themselves can offset with the FE BUT of course they don't make nearly enough of them... Out of Stock funny that
I know but i'm not expecting them to come down much further and it is an AIB card, the cooling is great on these too. I cant do AMD as i Dj in Second Life which is an OpenGL platform and Nvidia has way better performance in OpenGL than AMD does.. it is what it is, otherwise i would be on AMD for sure.
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I've been holding on to my 1070ti, which is currently in repairs and who knows if it will live again. I do regret not upgrading when I had the chance — a mistake I hope I won't repeat. However, I don't want to pay those inflated prices and, like @koh observes, while I might be willing to buy from someone who simply had had to restock at higher prices, I don't want, like @MyBrainz and @koh both agree, to be a part of the problem by enabling scalping. I don't hasten with moral condemnation because scalpers are in a business and supply and demand plays part and parcel of it, where humans, subjective as we tend to be, enjoy it when they can get paid extra but don't like to pay extra and are prone to inventing ideological points out of whole cloth to cover for this basic fact. So I don't want to judge (and I'm certainly not above raising the prices due to demand in my own business, which includes situations where the competition grows thinner for example because there are very few providers capable of providing the needed service within the needed time-frame), but at the same time I don't want to enable speculation consisting in buying goods quickly and adding one's markup to resale them to folks who are slower, with no added value.
I'm far from casting negative judgment on someone who just wants peace and to be left alone and will fork out to avoid strife, but at the same time I wish GPU buyers had more of a backbone and were ready to switch to consoles or laptops, prioritize CPUs, fast RAM and cooling equipment, etc. rather than just giving in. I wish the situation with mining alone would provoke a response from gamers and other buyers who have no part in mining and don't want to pay a premium for their GPUs just because miners want to use GPUs for something they don't even need a video output for (graphics cards with no graphical outputs… sign of the times we live in).
Right now I'm skeptical about forecasts of continued declines because as I look at new and used prices almost every day or sometimes several times a day, there is by no means a steady downward trend. There are spikes and reversals, however small or short-lasting. Both Covid and Putin have also taught us a lesson in prediction reliability. The situation throughout 2021 didn't necessarily coincide with predictions from weeks prior, either. And then there are anomalies like the 3070ti only now beginning to reach the same prices it asked just after it released last summer (being essentially cheaper than non-ti at that point), or the 6600XT on release, selling for less than it does now, if only for a day. So you never really know what's gonna happen — and maybe, just maybe, it's also time to start questioning the wisdom of spending time trying to predict it, as opposed to e.g. using that time to make more money, to increase the budget and just buy something and be done with it (although that would make one an enabler unless done carefully).
If I had to buy right now, I'd probably go for the cheapest 3070 from here at OC UK (550 quid) or grab the cheapest outlet 3060 or 6600XT (to avoid the hassle of old used hardware long past warranty and with who knows how much 24/7 mining under its belt and in what conditions). The latter would be pretty much an interim refresh to keep waiting for 4060, 5060, 7600XT or whatever.
I'm far from casting negative judgment on someone who just wants peace and to be left alone and will fork out to avoid strife, but at the same time I wish GPU buyers had more of a backbone and were ready to switch to consoles or laptops, prioritize CPUs, fast RAM and cooling equipment, etc. rather than just giving in. I wish the situation with mining alone would provoke a response from gamers and other buyers who have no part in mining and don't want to pay a premium for their GPUs just because miners want to use GPUs for something they don't even need a video output for (graphics cards with no graphical outputs… sign of the times we live in).
Right now I'm skeptical about forecasts of continued declines because as I look at new and used prices almost every day or sometimes several times a day, there is by no means a steady downward trend. There are spikes and reversals, however small or short-lasting. Both Covid and Putin have also taught us a lesson in prediction reliability. The situation throughout 2021 didn't necessarily coincide with predictions from weeks prior, either. And then there are anomalies like the 3070ti only now beginning to reach the same prices it asked just after it released last summer (being essentially cheaper than non-ti at that point), or the 6600XT on release, selling for less than it does now, if only for a day. So you never really know what's gonna happen — and maybe, just maybe, it's also time to start questioning the wisdom of spending time trying to predict it, as opposed to e.g. using that time to make more money, to increase the budget and just buy something and be done with it (although that would make one an enabler unless done carefully).
If I had to buy right now, I'd probably go for the cheapest 3070 from here at OC UK (550 quid) or grab the cheapest outlet 3060 or 6600XT (to avoid the hassle of old used hardware long past warranty and with who knows how much 24/7 mining under its belt and in what conditions). The latter would be pretty much an interim refresh to keep waiting for 4060, 5060, 7600XT or whatever.
My rx480 is still running 1080p and a bit of 1440p with my 3700x. I'm looking to upgrade but still can't bring myself to do it at current pricing. Thing is it's still working fine so why change it is how I should be thinking. Problem is I have the itch.Yea and my 1660 Super isnt exactly struggling at 1080p either, i might even wait for the 4000 series.
Bought a 5700X from OcUK that arrived on Saturday, got a nice perf improvement from my 3900X, my GPU is the weakest link, but it isnt 'weak' for 1080p
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Current pricing could be as good as it gets for the 30 series when buying new.
i think theres a little more wriggle room yet
TBH you can still easily get around £90 for your old gpu so the cost to upgrade to the 6600 is around £200. You will also get a 3 year warranty and currently a free month of Xbox pass. IMO I don't think you have to worry about overpaying for the 6600 when your 480 has kept so much of its original value at the moment. Again IMO don't think about cost for you as being cost to buy new, rather sell the 480 and think of it like part exchanging a car, price to upgrade.
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That's an issue for a lot of people, no good GPU to "trade in". At current resale prices the rx480 is still sitting pretty, and with rx6600 being more affordable i'd say swap now. I can't see the likes of such old cards being sellable at good prices again. The sheer amount of new cards having been made the last few years will saturate the 2nd hand market at some point not too far away i expect. I do wonder how many Polaris cards CEX are sat on.
Tbh I find I spend more time gaming on my ps5 + 4k tv over my 1440p 144hz rtx 3080 PC.
I don't post much but am still rocking a 1070. It actually plays most of my games fine, strategy type on 1440p. However I was heavily into VR, Xplane11, IL2 so mainly flight sims but I eventually binned them waiting for 3070's to get to near normal prices as eye candy wasn't great and then the world went to rats. To be fair I haven't missed them but would like to eek out the last of the juice from my system (i5 9600k) and a Rift S which has been gathering dust for a year since I finished Half life Alyx...
I appreciate the 3070 offers on OC (Inno - which happened to be my first ever GPU in 1992 ) but can we expect a further price drop across the board ? I guess there's a bit of a 'principal' thing happening in my head and I might be a tight git as well
I'm kind of thinking a 3070 will complement my ageing system but when to pull the trigger ? Any better suggestions?
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I appreciate the 3070 offers on OC (Inno - which happened to be my first ever GPU in 1992 ) but can we expect a further price drop across the board ? I guess there's a bit of a 'principal' thing happening in my head and I might be a tight git as well
I'm kind of thinking a 3070 will complement my ageing system but when to pull the trigger ? Any better suggestions?
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Gibbo said AMD mid tier might be worth waiting a bit. This was on the previous page. Might help you weigh up the decision.
Post in thread 'When the Gpu's prices will go down ?' https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/when-the-gpus-prices-will-go-down.18930720/post-35578237
When to buy is a difficult and personal decision in your case. As above there is supposed to be a refresh of AMD cards on the 10th May, which may give more choice but we don't know what the refresh prices will be. Certainly worth checking out stock on that afternoon. Intel might launch something in the summer, but we don't know what level of performance, at what price and when. Some have suggested that AMD might launch the 7600xt or 7700xt later this year, and if they do that will probably be your best bet. Should you hang on now until the AMD 7000 series given that you have done so far?I'm kind of thinking a 3070 will complement my ageing system but when to pull the trigger ? Any better suggestions?
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Trouble is that in this generation AMD successfully managed to match NVIDIA's performance but at the cost of failing to improve the price/performance ratio at all.
Given that TSMC N5 will be at least as supply constrained as N7 (if not more), there is a non negligible chance that this trend will continue. A 7600xt might match a current 6700xt in performance, but if it will also match its price all we're going to get are potentially better RT performance and some power savings.
I sincerely hope that I will be proven wrong but so far the outlook seems to be going in this direction...
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I think some of the flagship end are actually getting increases here so just RT for nvidia I imagine.
I was comparing an hypothetical 7600xt to the 6700xt, flagships are going to be a different kind of comparison imho.