Where did the paranormal go?
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. The thing about this challenge is it doesn't accommodate for the seemingly inexplicable events that occur on a ad hoc basis. It's not fit for purpose for dealing with "genuine" phenomena that occurs spontaneously.
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The only genuine inexplicable events that occur are still measurable because they follow cause and effect, even if spontaneous with no reason as to why or how. Human paranormal experiences are unreliable and cannot be replicated in a measured world as has been mentioned earlier. The human brain can make things seem so believable with even simple stimulate like certain sound frequencies that it is undoubtedly true to the person involved and there would be no two ways about it for them.
Two things we know of that happen randomly in the known universe based on historical evidence of their actions are things like the big bang where evidence lies the cosmic microwave background which has been measured. And of course the thing we all know of, evolution from single cell to multi-cell organisms billions of years ago to form all forms of life on Earth today.
Two things we know of that happen randomly in the known universe based on historical evidence of their actions are things like the big bang where evidence lies the cosmic microwave background which has been measured. And of course the thing we all know of, evolution from single cell to multi-cell organisms billions of years ago to form all forms of life on Earth today.
The hyperbole re: hot coffee killing people and not being a drink
Anyway you just made up your own definition and I'd dispute that you can't sip a hot cup of coffee/tea etc... not to mention that this isn't even the right thread for it and the pointless semantic argument over whether to refer to a hot cup of coffee as a drink in the original thread was also pointless - you can refer to it as a hot cup of coffee instead for all I care, it doesn't change the argument/points I'd made.
What sort of events are you referring to?I'm acknowledging it now
The hyperbole re: hot coffee killing people and not being a drink
Anyway you just made up your own definition and I'd dispute that you can't sip a hot cup of coffee/tea etc... not to mention that this isn't even the right thread for it and the pointless semantic argument over whether to refer to a hot cup of coffee as a drink in the original thread was also pointless - you can refer to it as a hot cup of coffee instead for all I care, it doesn't change the argument/points I'd made.
This sounds like a brilliant argument. Got a link to the thread?
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Allegations of experiences that are for the most part personal and anecdotal, randomised and non repeatable. Not every paranormal experience is untrue just because it's unprovable. Understandably not every experience might be true either but It's been said time and time again on this forum that absence of evidence isn't necessarily evidence of absence.
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That's basically the tail end of it yeah. I don't think someone should get a big pay out for spilling a hot
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So why did you bring it up in this thread? I didn't bring it up - I replied to you bringing it up.
Pointless, perhaps. Merely semantics, no. The difference between being badly burned or dead and not being badly burned or dead is not merely semantics. Describing coffee hot enough to kill as "a hot cup of coffee" is misleading because in that context "hot" is usually taken to mean "towards the upper end of the drinkable temperature range".
Why do you want to dredge this up again?
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It's ideal for the all too common claims of reliable and repeatable paranormal powers, though. Foretellling the future, magic healing, seeing into the past, communicating with the dead/spirits/aliens/whatever, etc.
As for "seemingly inexplicable events that occur on a ad hoc basis", the most likely reason for those is that nobody present has an explanation, not that there isn't an explanation. The idea of "I can't explain it, therefore it's magic/gods/spirits/aliens" has a widespread and enduring appeal, but it's just a way of avoiding saying "I don't know" because most people very much dislike saying "I don't know".
A few days ago a coat hook I had stuck on a door a while ago fell off. Why did it fall off at exactly that time? It didn't have anything hung on it at that time, so it wasn't due to an excessive load. That is a "seemingly inexplicable events that occur[ed] on a ad hoc basis", so does that mean it's inexplicable? Does it mean that a magic-user/god/spirit/alien pulled the coat hook off? No. It just means that I don't know why it happened at that time.
Not so long ago, most (if not all) people thought that lightning was paranormal and usually a weapon of a god. Does that mean that lightning really was thrown by various gods in various parts of the world back then and only became a natural phenomenom recently? Why did all the gods of lighting retire at the same time? I have this odd image of Odin and Indra and a whole bunch of other gods getting together for a party to celebrate becoming eligible for a pension and finally being able to retire
EDIT: Oops, wrong god. Thor was the thunder god, not Odin. Although maybe they believed Odin could do it too, I don't know.
Bit of a weird story, the "Giant of Kandahar", allegedly a 12-15 feet tall giant that was killed in Afghanistan after it skewered a soldier with a spear. Interviews with people claiming to be soldiers\airmen some of who allegedly seen it. More than likely bs but makes for a good story.
Says who?
I didn’t, the other poster mentioned it. Anyway, not particularly, I’m gonna have a cup of tea, a cup of tea.... HOT ENOUGH TO KILL
