Poll: Where is everyone?

Do you think that life exists elsewhere in the universe?

  • Yes there must be!

    Votes: 561 94.6%

  • Nope, we're all alone.

    Votes: 32 5.4%
  • Total voters
    593
My hunch is that life (in some form) is common throughout the universe, and probably within our own solar system.

Intelligent Humanoid life forms however...
 
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I think the question of is there life out there should be has there been or will there be life out there. I doubt in the time life exists on Earth it will be discovered or we be found or even exist at all.
 
Of course to explore the possibilities properly first we would have to shed most of the self inflicted axioms of "extraterrestrial life" binding this conversation. Are we talking about aliens, or aliens that are similar to biology on our planet. Do the aliens that we are going to accept as proper visitors have to be constricted by our understanding of life time and space framework, dimensional limitations, the so called habitable parameters of universe and most of all - mechanical technology. They just must be travelling onboard flying crafts we can pick up by radar and their civilisation must emit radio waves, preferably within timeframe and frequency range of our own calibrated listening equipment? Right?
 
Of course the is intelligent life in the universe. :rolleyes:

How do I know, because they intelligent enough to stay right out the way of us knuckle dragging, religious retards hell bent on killing each other. :eek:

After all the chaos and murders we cause, would you as an intelligent Alien come anywhere near us?

Not a chance in hell. So on that hypothesis the most definitely is intelligent life in the universe. ;)
 
v0n said:
Of course to explore the possibilities properly first we would have to shed most of the self inflicted axioms of "extraterrestrial life" binding this conversation. Are we talking about aliens, or aliens that are similar to biology on our planet. Do the aliens that we are going to accept as proper visitors have to be constricted by our understanding of life time and space framework, dimensional limitations, the so called habitable parameters of universe and most of all - mechanical technology. They just must be travelling onboard flying crafts we can pick up by radar and their civilisation must emit radio waves, preferably within timeframe and frequency range of our own calibrated listening equipment? Right?
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Already answered the thrust(see what I did there:)) of this question earlier shown here in quotes. As for the rest I have no idea really. I assume they need technology to get here. Maybe if they could utilise an Einstein-Rosen Bridge, their space craft could be small enough and so easier to manufacture. Otherwise I'd assume the distances would be too far to travel.

Sliver said:
Life would be defined in this sense as a self replicating organism with a genetic code to pass on.
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Sliver said:
Well yes and no as great apes like us are also self replicating organisms. This is why I gave that definition when asked earlier, it covers all life ;)

But yes, clearly a bacteria would find it hard to build satellite or a computer. ;)
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itchy said:
Of course the is intelligent life in the universe. :rolleyes:

How do I know, because they intelligent enough to stay right out the way of us knuckle dragging, religious retards hell bent on killing each other. :eek:

After all the chaos and murders we cause, would you as an intelligent Alien come anywhere near us?

Not a chance in hell. So on that hypothesis the most definitely is intelligent life in the universe. ;)
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Indeed. Given all the horrific news bulletins and mind-meltingly terrible reality TV we're beaming out into space, any intelligent aliens picking that up are either going to give us a very wide berth or come kick our backsides in style.
 
Sliver said:
Well yes and no as great apes like us are also self replicating organisms. This is why I gave that definition when asked earlier, it covers all life ;)

But yes, clearly a bacteria would find it hard to build satellite or a computer. ;)
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What's up with all the wink eyes? I don't understand.

So, if we're talking about simple organisms, we possible have that in our solar system. A more interesting topic would be intelligent life and how common it is our galaxy. That's a pretty debatable issue at the moment, common or quite unique. I think we're in the unique camp actually, having read quite a lot about how Earth got to the state it is now.
 
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Just a friendly way of showing we have come to the answer we both wanted. The truth. ;):D;)
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Well there's certainly simple organisms in the universe, like i said in my previous post. We could potentially find it in our solar system within the next few years. You'd have to be an idiot to say there isn't simple organisms in the universe tbh.

Intelligent life is the interesting one though, really interesting. i don't believe the UFO stories, i don't believe intelligent life has visited our planet but there could be people like us building homes and creating fire on another planet in our galaxy. I don't think it's loads though, a few maybe
 
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I'm going to throw out some approximations because I can't remember exact numbers. Also, these threads bug me :o

So 1 Astronomical Unit is 93 million miles. That's what they use to measure the distance covered by the Voyager probes. For example, Voyager 1 is now in Interstellar Space after traveling for nearly 4 decades at around 40,000 mph. So its covered around 130AU units.

A nothing distance in space. A tiny fraction of a percent of a light-year, as there's 60,000 odd AUs in one light-year. And one light-year equates to 5.9 trillion miles, or

5,900,000,000,000 miles.

So traveling at light-speed (that's a 186,000 miles a second) it would still take 2.5 million years to reach our nearest galaxy, Andromeda.

Again, even if we could get close to that speed, other than exploring locally it's pretty useless. But it would put a stop to the media harping on about Goldilocks zones when they discover such planets are not 'super Earths', and lush Gaia's filled with rainbows and fresh water oceans teeming with dolphins and tunafish.

My point is space is hostile and stupid crazy big. Whatever life or intelligent life is out there we ain't gonna find them anytime soon, and vica versa. In fact I'd say it'll be 100s of years before we find any kind of extraterrestrial life (assuming we don't bomb ourselves back to the stone age that is). And I'm talking Dinosaur type stuff here, not some slime frozen in a chunk of ice.

And lets not forget that Dinosaurs ran around eating each other for over a 150 million years, and the only thing that bothered them during that massive amount of time was a big space rock.
 
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I'm going to throw out some approximations because I can't remember exact numbers. Also, these threads bug me :o

So 1 Astronomical Unit is 93 million miles. That's what they use to measure the distance covered by the Voyager probes. For example, Voyager 1 is now in Interstellar Space after traveling for nearly 4 decades at around 40,000 mph. So its covered around 130AU units.

A nothing distance in space. A tiny fraction of a percent of a light-year, as there's 60,000 odd AUs in one light-year. And one light-year equates to 5.9 trillion miles, or

5,900,000,000,000 miles.

So traveling at light-speed (that's a 186,000 miles a second) it would still take 2.5 million years to reach our nearest galaxy, Andromeda.

Again, even if we could get close to that speed, other than exploring locally it's pretty useless. But it would put a stop to the media harping on about Goldilocks zones when they discover such planets are not 'super Earths', and lush Gaia's filled with rainbows and fresh water oceans teeming with dolphins and tunafish.

My point is space is hostile and stupid crazy big. Whatever life or intelligent life is out there we ain't gonna find them anytime soon, and vica versa. In fact I'd say it'll be 100s of years before we find any kind of extraterrestrial life (assuming we don't bomb ourselves back to the stone age that is). And I'm talking Dinosaur type stuff here, not some slime frozen in a chunk of ice.

And lets not forget that Dinosaurs ran around eating each other for over a 150 million years, and the only thing that bothered them during that massive amount of time was a big space rock.
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Your mathematics is off for travel time. With current technology it would take over one hundred thousand years to get there, remember it's not in a neighbouring Galaxy Andromeda, it's in our Galaxy. At the speed of light it would take 4ish years. Check out the link below, it has the answers in the video and write up.

http://www.space.com/33844-proxima-b-exoplanet-interstellar-mission.html
 
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Can you clarify whether you mean life or intelligent life because most posters are assuming you mean intelligent?
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Yeah I know that's because a lot of posters come in and jump to the last page without reading up. I was asked this question and my reply was:

Life would be defined in this sense as a self replicating organism with a genetic code to pass on. This would cover all life.
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Smokey Deza said:
So traveling at light-speed (that's a 186,000 miles a second) it would still take 2.5 million years to reach our nearest galaxy, Andromeda.

Again, even if we could get close to that speed, other than exploring locally it's pretty useless. But it would put a stop to the media harping on about Goldilocks zones when they discover such planets are not 'super Earths', and lush Gaia's filled with rainbows and fresh water oceans teeming with dolphins and tunafish.
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Not entirely sure what your point is here. Why do we need to go to Andromeda to search for anything if we don't even stand much chance of exploring more than a fraction of our own galaxy? When you say "locally" in this context I assume you mean the Milky Way, which itself is full of about 100 billion stars, any number of which could have planets orbiting them.

Andromeda, the nearest galaxy to ours, is about 2.5m light years away. But the nearest star within our own galaxy, Promixa Centuri, is 'only' 4 light years away. Still a crazy distance but with improvements to space travel this could plausibly be reached, eventually.

If there's candidate planets in the habitable zone of stars closer to hand within our own galaxy (perhaps many thousands of them or more) then the chances of being able to observe / study them in some way and perhaps discover signs of life as our technology improves is plausible.
 
Once the sun torches Earth and our faces all melt it'll be warm enough for Mars to sustain life. Wouldn't be surprised if Venus contained life before Earth did and the Venetians faces all melted.
 
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