Where is the breaking point for you?

I don't have a breaking point as it's called life. Deal with it and stop blaming others for your own mess. 9/10 you put yourself in the #### so man the #### up, get your head down and crack on. Your only here once.

Ooo you’re hard.

Everyone has a breaking point btw unless you’re some sort of psychopath.
 
What's hard about it, yes you have #### times everyone does. Acknowledge you will get **** times at times and crack on till the next one hits.
 
I don't have a breaking point as it's called life. Deal with it and stop blaming others for your own mess. 9/10 you put yourself in the #### so man the #### up, get your head down and crack on. Your only here once.
I kinda agree with this.
Some people seem to prefer to whinge and moan and generally do anything other than actually making an effort to sort their own situation out.
However, I do acknowledge that due to cost of living etc it is tough out there for some.
 
FPTP really is the root of all evil. I will say this over and over again.

It's not that there are no different ideas other than what the Tories or Labour are offering. It's just that under FPTP none of these ideas stand a chance.

Not only are people discouraged from voting for parties with different ideas, for fear of "wasting their votes", but when they do, those parties still can't get any elected representatives.

People vote for whichever out of Labour or the Tories they despise the least. It's sad, and it's criminal, really.

We can't call ourselves a democracy. We are a two-party state, with an electoral system that keeps everyone else side-lined. By design.

And these days those two parties aren't even all that different (which is where we agree).
The changes i would make is

1) Move everything online/app, so you vote online/phone (we will make solutions for the old people who cant figure out tech)

2) Vote directly for a prime minister, separate to MP's, the voting system will be opt out, i.e. everyone is in the running, unless you opt out which blocks anyone from voting for you.

So you can vote for Steve down he pub to be prime minister if you want.

3) Nobody has the right to vote, the right to vote must be earned, everyone will have the right to earn the right to vote. (get a qualification by passing a test etc)

4) All political parties banned, in terms of any possible formal structure of any kind. You can have any opinion you want, say whatever you want, but you are not a member of any party, there are no parties.
 
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I’m not sure what would take me to protest or strike. I don’t work in the public sector which where a lot of this seems to happen. Maybe it’s my mentality as well where I prefer to fix my own problems rather than scream at someone else to do it.

I think I would be more likely to emigrate but it would have to be something quite extreme to cause that. In reality things aren’t that bad despite the media or worse social media best efforts to stir things up.
 
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I kinda agree with this.
Some people seem to prefer to whinge and moan and generally do anything other than actually making an effort to sort their own situation out.
However, I do acknowledge that due to cost of living etc it is tough out there for some.

My situation and quality of life is perfectly fine but I do think it warrants a whinge and a moan when every person in the country is circa 11k worse off due to the total mismanagement of the country.

I am a proud and patriotic person. There is nothing I see worse than the decline of this once great nation. I do my bit now and vote but there not really much else I can do due to the way our government system is. Don't you see how that can get a little frustrating?
 
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What's hard about it, yes you have #### times everyone does. Acknowledge you will get **** times at times and crack on till the next one hits.

Sounds like the perfect Tory party slogan if they didn’t have to BS and fluff it up.

I’m doing just fine financially and in my career. There are more factors at work than just being comfortable in that respect. It’s all well and good just looking after yourself but that doesn’t make for a good society to live in unless you’re happy being a hermit.

If this thread is anything to go by I think it shows why things will never change in this country. The majority of attitudes involve either ignoring everything or just carry on with the blinkers on.
 
Don't you see how that can get a little frustrating?
Yes I can.
My comment was more aimed at the sort of people who make minimum effort and then whine about not being able to afford this that and the other.
For example not wanting to work extra hours to get the money they'd like, or re-training for another career, or moving elsewhere because the local house prices are preventing them from affording a mortgage because they don't see why they should have to and don't want to.
 
Ooo you’re hard.

Everyone has a breaking point btw unless you’re some sort of psychopath.

Surely psychopaths have low thresholds for losing control of their emotions?

Since `er indoors took up teaching she's been alarmed to find shockingly high numbers of pupils in schools are claiming some sort of "`ism". She genuinely believes such monikers are a veil to save parents from accepting their poor parenting and absent disciplinary measures are actually to blame.

The kids wear their `isms as badges of honour and as a shield against the robust discipline they should be receiving to get them receptive to a worthwhile education in a school environment.
 
Surely psychopaths have low thresholds for losing control of their emotions?

Since `er indoors took up teaching she's been alarmed to find shockingly high numbers of pupils in schools are claiming some sort of "`ism". She genuinely believes such monikers are a veil to save parents from accepting their poor parenting and absent disciplinary measures are actually to blame.

The kids wear their `isms as badges of honour and as a shield against the robust discipline they should be receiving to get them receptive to a worthwhile education in a school environment.

Not really, psychopaths are often characterised by a lack of deep emotion and controlled behaviour. Rather than losing control, they manipulate or mimic emotional responses to achieve specific goals. Their emotional experiences tend to be shallow and calculated rather than impulsive or uncontrolled.

When it comes to various disorders and conditions such as autism that's a different thing entirely, our perception of an increase in prevalence can be attributed to advances in our understanding and ability to diagnose developmental disorders. If you're familiar with autism, you'll know that the assumption that individuals on the autism spectrum can develop and learn in the same way as neurotypical individuals is often incorrect. The autism spectrum is incredibly diverse, with individuals exhibiting a wide range of characteristics and behaviours. While some people on the spectrum may learn to mask their symptoms, those at the more severe end of the spectrum show more obvious signs, which would affect their ability to attend mainstream education.

My partner's mother works in a primary school in a very poor area and there are several children there who clearly should be in a more specialised school, but the parents don't give a damn about them and refuse to have a professional assessment. Pretending that all children wear it as a badge of honour is just another one of your ill-considered views.
 
, I do acknowledge that due to cost of living etc it is tough out there for some.
this is the heart of it for me. just because I am doing ok and don't have to worry so much does not mean I can't be sympathetic and admit the cards are stacked against most people.
the idea that if you work hard you get just rewards is an utter lie.
huge parts of society are getting royally screwed and yet the lucky few are making bank . I am luckier than most but how can anyone not see the corruption which is riddled through our country.

all that said . yes I don't have to worry but there is no hiding the fact that my money is worth less than ever before and my standard of living and my future is now not as good as it was.
someone said it is just as easy now to retire to (in my case) Menorca than it was before Brexit ..... whilst it may still be possible it's absolutely NOT a given Like it used to be.
 
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Sounds like the perfect Tory party slogan if they didn’t have to BS and fluff it up.

I’m doing just fine financially and in my career. There are more factors at work than just being comfortable in that respect. It’s all well and good just looking after yourself but that doesn’t make for a good society to live in unless you’re happy being a hermit.

If this thread is anything to go by I think it shows why things will never change in this country. The majority of attitudes involve either ignoring everything or just carry on with the blinkers on.

My eyes are wide open, I can see every service is falling apart due to utter mismanagement, incompetence, greed and totally out of touch, yet the majority (That includes councils as well) still decided to vote in a complete bunch of ******* that every single time they get into power (Thatcher onwards) destroy & dismantle rather than create. So you 100% know your going to get your teeth kicked in no matter what you do so prepare as such.

Your right that its not going to change and it wont be allowed to until the British people decide to take the streets and FORCE change, your vote is nothing but a lie and tick in the box that the system is working as intended.
 
Brits won't ever come together out of sheer stubbornness like the French. They protest in vast numbers and go more extreme. Our protests or direct action are very weak in comparison. We like to bend over and take it, whilst moaning.
 
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Brits won't ever come together out of sheer stubbornness like the French. They protest in vast numbers and go more extreme. Our protests or direct action are very week in comparison. We like to bend over and take it, whilst moaning.

Last time I remember the slightest start of something we did was the poll tax, I was serving in Germany at the time so missed the fun :)
 
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