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Which brand CPUs does your company/employer work with?

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So, mine works with HP machines - desktop powered by Intel Core i5 8500 class, and mobile with some type of Core U models.

I have worked with several companies so far and yet all of them used Intel processors of some type - be it Pentium, Core 2 or Core i-something.

So, what about yours?
 
bremen1874 said:
Until very recently you'd have had to try quite hard to buy anything but Intel from HP, Dell, Levono, Fujitsu, etc. Because the AMD offerings were pretty poor there was no reason to try and buy them.

I've been buying PCs for SMEs for 20+ years and a Ryzen based Dell laptop that's due for delivery on Monday is the first non-Intel I bought in that time.
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Even when Athlon 64 was the faster option.

I read here in these forums that there are cases when the company allows its subordinates to build the machines of their choice, so that effectively they can choose Ryzen also.

It's very frustrating to know that Ryzen is on 7nm-class manufacturing process allowing huge saving on power bills and also the purchase invoices, and you have to be stuck with the inferior Intel option.
 
bremen1874 said:
The power consumption on a modern business PC is minimal, Intel or AMD.
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It depends on the load - I'd agree if the load is low and predominantly the office packages.
But if it's a serious workstation with many cores and heavy workload, then AMD's CPUs offer much better performance/watt.

Imagine how a 35 or 45-watt Ryzen 4000 series mobile APU beats with ease a 95-100-watt Core i7 or Core i9.
Or that a 15-watt Ryzen 7 4700U / Ryzen 7 4800U runs circles around Intel's 65-watt offerings.

bremen1874 said:
Most of the time in a business you want conformity. If you walk into a business and they've got a load of random self-built PCs you know it'll be a nightmare.
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Maybe there will be more work for the IT employees, but nothing scary in having your own choice. Even HP today may offer Ryzens in their office desktop offerings.
 
Chaos666 said:
I would love to see some AMD in my workplace.. I was very surprised when they gave us some i5 8500 rigs ..
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I don't know why Intel and HP thinks that it should give people exactly what they don't want to.
Does it still think that people don't know what is better and that those CPUs are yesterday's technology with bad technology in them - power consumption, etc...?
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Intel is used by most of manufacturers because of contracts and incentives.

There's historical evidence and videos on YouTube which supports this.

Basically intel paid the likes of dell, hp, etc to use their processors so much it essentially made the processors free.

So would you build a superior pc with smaller profit margins or a slightly inferior pc with higher margins. That was back when and was faster.

After intel killed off the competition through making their sales insignificant they managed to gain the lead power wise until now.

It will be interesting to see if intel pay off companies again to use their products over amd.
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I think it isn't possible anymore because the likes of Apple and others already jump off the x86-64 ship to their own ARM RISC more power efficient solutions.
Intel is just an ordinary supplier today and if it continues like this, soon it will become insignificant supplier.
 
Freddie1980 said:
If they did then they would have been limited to small choice of products, much easier to swallow their own pride and buy a bunch of Intel based machines direct from Dell.
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Well, it isn't so bad - Intel's propaganda works really hard, though.
For office machines back in 2011, that was enough performance, given the load is only browsing and office - word, powerpoint, excel.


https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A6-3600+APU&id=25


https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-2350M+@+2.30GHz&id=758
 
Cyber-Mav said:
Dell, intel on everything.
If there are issues i dont think amd will help as much as intel would.
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Dell considered switching to AMD, but its executives feared the "double whammy" of seeing a huge chunk of its rebates not only vanish, but shifted to a competing computer maker. By mid-2004, Intel was paying Dell about $300 million per quarter in rebates -- or more than one-third of its quarterly net income.

But Dell continued to lose share, revenue, and reputation by not shipping the Opteron. On November 4, 2005, then CEO Otellini reported back to colleagues on a call he had received from Michael Dell, Dell's then chairman: "[Michael Dell] opened by saying 'I am tired of losing business'... 'Dell is no longer seen as a thought leader.'" Later that month, Michael Dell emailed his own people writing, "We are losing the hearts, minds and wallets of our best customers."

But Otellini countered Michael Dell's complaints by, according to Otellini's email, reminding him, "We are transferring over $1 billion per year to Dell for [MCP] efforts. This was judged by your team to be more than sufficient to compensate for the competitive issues." When advised in February 2006 that Dell's then CEO Rollins had decided to stay with Intel chips, Otellini emailed a colleague calling Rollins "The best friend money can buy."
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https://money.cnn.com/2009/11/13/technology/intel_settlement_emails.fortune/
 
I find it disturbing that there is no pressure on Intel to release new, better and more power-efficient processors.

The company lags behind like offering only half of the top performance that AMD can offer and still the customers stay silent and in some type of weak position against Intel.

What's going on, really? Why does the whole world owe Intel something?
 
Laptops with Intel i5-10210U are poor performing - slow, hot and loud.

Guys, ask your employers for AMD only based systems!

Intel is a garbage company now, they lie all the time about the reliability of the products.
 
Intel Has an Unfixable Chipset Security Flaw. Is it a Risk?

"Researchers with the security firm Positive Technologies have discovered a significant flaw in Intel chipsets dating back at least five years. The flaw is reportedly completely unfixable because it’s hard-coded into the mask ROM, making it impossible for Intel to update. It may also allow hackers to bypass any downstream attempt to secure the machine, including secondary processors like Apple’s T2 security chip.

The flaw Positive Technologies found is in Intel’s Converged Security and Management Engine (CSME), which is fundamental to the boot authentication process. Features like Intel’s DRM implementation, Intel Identity Protection, and Intel’s TPM all rely on the CSME."
Intel Has an Unfixable Chipset Security Flaw. Is it a Risk? - ExtremeTech

Researchers discover troubling new security flaw in all modern Intel processors
The flaw could see attackers steal passwords, login credentials, and more.
Researchers discover troubling new security flaw in all modern Intel processors | TNW (thenextweb.com)
 
sparkymark75 said:
Not strictly speaking a business brand (however owned by one) but gives you an idea of what AMD are up against to try and gain any foothold.

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/321919-alienware-really-doesnt-want-you-to-buy-an-amd-ryzen-pc
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This is why customers should avoid such corrupted companies to buy from.

I have the Ryzen 9 5900X with MSI X570 Tomahawk WIFI, 32GB RAM, and planning to equip it with the Radeon RX 6800 XT 16GB.

This is a monstrous PC that no Intel equivalent would come close to.
 
OspreyO said:
Hard to know what point you're making.

LOL look at Intel
or
LOL companies don't replace all their hardware that quickly
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To be honest, I don't see any willingness from the majority of the companies to shift away from the slower, and less technologically advanced Intel proposals.
They still buy new Intel systems with low performance and expensive Intel CPUs.
 
OspreyO said:
A 5yrv old Intel system isn't more expensive than replacing it with a new AMD one. Especially if 99.9% of your staff don't do anything that requires the extra performance.

We've only just replaced a system that was running on Dec Alpha's. It's been running for a quarter of a century.

In a few decades of working in IT there's been very few times I've been able to solve a problem with faster hardware. Usually it's software charge that prompts a change in hardware, or a failure. I have had projects that faster hardware was important. But very rarely.
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OspreyO said:
We've replaced all our laptops and desktops across our organisation recently and I'm pretty sure performance never was a consideration. It's whatever hits the price point.
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If the tables were turned upside down, the narrative would be the opposite - how much the performance actually mattered.
When Intel is competitive - oh, look at the benchmarks.
When Intel has nothing to offer - oh, look, the benchmarks don't matter.


Screw all - the power consumption, heat, noise, lag from slow applications, super high prices, security bugs, etc.
 
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