Which Warm hatch....

Make up your mind!!

I see what you mean but the key to that was "very poor performance while drinking fuel"
if it was quick it would not bother me, but the 2.0 8v unit is far from it.

I would consider another ibiza a cupra maybe, but there are not a lot around and I think I prefer the leon.

Someone mentioned an mx 5 looked at one which had a hard top, but the girlfriend does not want one encase we have children in the future.

Wait wait wait, so none of these are hot or warm hatches?
I will have to go for a mk 4 golf, the really quick one, the gti with the 2.0 8valve
waiiit a minute....

As for the depreciation if I sold said car in 2-3 years I would be happy to get 2k, the ibiza has held its value similarly. What I do not want to do is overpay for something because they are more expenisve here then get a low amount.
 
Think so? I found it hugely underpowered, preferred the Cooper in a way

I will admit I haven't driven the S, but my GF has a Cooper. As an all round car its nice, it's just crying out for more power. Does the S not delivery that then?

You could get an 05 Cooper for £6k though I imagine?
 
Its more powerful but still feels very strained and imo not much of a step up from the cooper, I imagine the works sorts that out though
 
I will admit I haven't driven the S, but my GF has a Cooper. As an all round car its nice, it's just crying out for more power. Does the S not delivery that then?

You could get an 05 Cooper for £6k though I imagine?

A cooper perhaps, not an S.

What puts me off about the Mini in general is the change in engines and shape at 06 age which is out of my price range.

Nice cars though, I actually learned and did my test in one, it was a cooper.

The civic type R is good, but a bit far away. (im based in north east)

Should mention that I will be buying from a garage so prices will be inflated anyway as i will be trading in the ibiza.
 
The cupra R is a cracking car, I suggest driving that one, even if it is red (though I think its ambitiously priced). Can't say the ST would even get a look in for me assuming a choice between the two - but if you like both then there's no harm checking them out.
 
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