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I can't bring myself to turf out my 478 Pentium 4 rig... It is almost entirely useless to me, but it was my first proper PC
Watercooled and everything 
White SG09 with power and watercooling
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I can't bring myself to turf out my 478 Pentium 4 rig... It is almost entirely useless to me, but it was my first proper PC
Watercooled and everything 
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Thanks for the support Guys 
First a Plastik 70 to insulate and the a non condutive plastick paint.
Seems to Work just fine
Well, just to set it in perspektive;
The only thing in this build that will have warrenty left when im done is;
CPU, GPU's and the monsoon fittings
Well the motherboard is bought used, and is "old" now (no warrenty left anyway), so I thought; why not try.
If it doesn't Work, I will wait until the Asus Z87 Gryphon comes out and the spraypaint it's shield White. (a bit more safe to do).
Due to the risk, I will not paint the GPU's. To much Money and warrenty at stake.
First a Plastik 70 to insulate and the a non condutive plastick paint.
Seems to Work just fine
Motherboard warranty = gone
Motherboard re-sale value = £0
Isn't there now a much higher likelihood of something on the board overheating?
That said, it does look fantastic so far. Just a little baffled by the painted motherboard
Keep up the good work!
Well, just to set it in perspektive;
The only thing in this build that will have warrenty left when im done is;
CPU, GPU's and the monsoon fittings
love the painted mobo, i wanted to do similar myself, but really dont know what paint to use, whether it would work or not, or how to go about doing i, so much respect for jumping in with both feet and having a go!
pff... who keeps a warranty on anything now? all mine have gone out of the window except the graphics card !!
also, the resale value could be just as high, if he finds someone else who wants a white and green build.... besides, ive never sold any of my computer stuff, it goes in the loft and hides there till i find a use for it (i never will, but i cant get rid of it, it was once my pride and joy!!!)
Well the motherboard is bought used, and is "old" now (no warrenty left anyway), so I thought; why not try.
If it doesn't Work, I will wait until the Asus Z87 Gryphon comes out and the spraypaint it's shield White. (a bit more safe to do).
Due to the risk, I will not paint the GPU's. To much Money and warrenty at stake.
I have looked and I can't see anywhere you have mentioned it so I am just wondering what is the case like?
I am looking at either this one and using my current MATX mobo etc or going to ITX and getting the Prodigy or something and I was just wanted to get your thoughts on it?
I am looking at either this one and using my current MATX mobo etc or going to ITX and getting the Prodigy or something and I was just wanted to get your thoughts on it?
Soldato
Looking really good, it does look better with the white and green mobo but no sure I could go through with it myself.
As for a project name, how about 'Chilled Hulk'?
Edit: Actually thinking about it, could also have 'Iced Hulk' or 'Frosted Hulk' too.
As for a project name, how about 'Chilled Hulk'?
Edit: Actually thinking about it, could also have 'Iced Hulk' or 'Frosted Hulk' too.
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Well, I depends on a few Things;
Do you need mATX (SLI support, soundcard etc)?
Are you to carry it around much?
Personally I overall like the SG09/10 (what ever front you like best) better than the Prodigy. Why?:
- Smaller, not much, but it's smaller.
On one hand they have still pushed a mATX and up to 160mm PSU in the case along the use of some very long GPU's.
The support for 3.5" HDD, are though smaler (2 vs 5 in the Prodigy), but I rarely see persons having more that 2 3.5" HDDs in a gaming rig.
Silence/airflow:
SG09710 wins here Again imo. The 180mm fan in the top along a Silverstone Heligon H02 you get a passive cooler for the CPU (but still a 700 rpm 180 at top, but it's very silent. If you wanted more silent a PWM 180 can be bought, or the AP182 (Down to 500 rpm)).
As for airflow around the GPU's SG09 also to me seems to be better due to the many fan options directly around it. I actually believe this is a good case for SLI/crossfire with blower stile GPU's.
But the Prodigy also got some nice features, as handels, MAC looking (if you like that), optional window side panel for the GPU, and most of all; much easier to do custom watercooling inside (trust med on that
).So which to take depends on once needs.
If I didn't wanted to do watercooling (at all exept maybe a H70 or something like that), Price and looks didn't matter to much, I would get the SG09/10 + a PWM 180 fan and the Heligon H02.
I see the SG09/10 as more "future prof" if you one day want a second GPU (room and better cooling) and to some sense more silent (I do believe the GPU's will have better cooling = lower RPM), but the CPU cooler can be just as quiet in both cases.
If you go to many LAN parties, want to show of the installed HW, want to do watercooling, I would get the Prodigy. It a really nice case for such Things, and comes in many colors, and people in general thinks it looks great (can't say the same about a Black SG09).
If any more questions, please dont hold back
Well, Iced Hulk, is not so bad, but normally people think "big" when thinking about hulk.
I got one from SWEclockers forum; "Arctic Reactor"
Which I think is quite nice, the arctic meaning the White snow, and the green parts and Water as the reactor (which isn't green in reality, but people tends to look at it that way)
And just like a reactor it got a lot of power (but the build is using power instead of generating it though).
But people also tends to see reactor as something big, so perhaps; Arctic Mini Reactor??
Soldato
Well, Iced Hulk, is not so bad, but normally people think "big" when thinking about hulk.
I got one from SWEclockers forum; "Arctic Reactor"
Which I think is quite nice, the arctic meaning the White snow, and the green parts and Water as the reactor (which isn't green in reality, but people tends to look at it that way)
And just like a reactor it got a lot of power (but the build is using power instead of generating it though).
But people also tends to see reactor as something big, so perhaps; Arctic Mini Reactor??
I was thinking hulk as green and powerful but you are right suggests something big. Artic Reactor isn't a bad name, better than my other thought of 'Snotcycle'
If you don't like Reactor as it suggest big, could go for something more like 'Artic Fusion' or 'Cold Fusion'
Thanks for putting so much effort mate, I only expected one or two lines.Well, I depends on a few Things;
Do you need mATX (SLI support, soundcard etc)?
Are you to carry it around much?
Personally I overall like the SG09/10 (what ever front you like best) better than the Prodigy. Why?:
- Smaller, not much, but it's smaller.
On one hand they have still pushed a mATX and up to 160mm PSU in the case along the use of some very long GPU's.
The support for 3.5" HDD, are though smaler (2 vs 5 in the Prodigy), but I rarely see persons having more that 2 3.5" HDDs in a gaming rig.
Silence/airflow:
SG09710 wins here Again imo. The 180mm fan in the top along a Silverstone Heligon H02 you get a passive cooler for the CPU (but still a 700 rpm 180 at top, but it's very silent. If you wanted more silent a PWM 180 can be bought, or the AP182 (Down to 500 rpm)).
As for airflow around the GPU's SG09 also to me seems to be better due to the many fan options directly around it. I actually believe this is a good case for SLI/crossfire with blower stile GPU's.
But the Prodigy also got some nice features, as handels, MAC looking (if you like that), optional window side panel for the GPU, and most of all; much easier to do custom watercooling inside (trust med on that
So which to take depends on once needs.
If I didn't wanted to do watercooling (at all exept maybe a H70 or something like that), Price and looks didn't matter to much, I would get the SG09/10 + a PWM 180 fan and the Heligon H02.
I see the SG09/10 as more "future prof" if you one day want a second GPU (room and better cooling) and to some sense more silent (I do believe the GPU's will have better cooling = lower RPM), but the CPU cooler can be just as quiet in both cases.
If you go to many LAN parties, want to show of the installed HW, want to do watercooling, I would get the Prodigy. It a really nice case for such Things, and comes in many colors, and people in general thinks it looks great (can't say the same about a Black SG09).
If any more questions, please dont hold back
I am going to be going to Uni soon which is why I want a little machine so I can take it with me when I am living there then bring it home on the train etc when I come home.
I am certainly sold on either the SG09 or SG10. I will wait and see what price the SG10 comes out at then decide if the nicer looking front is worth the extra
With regards to cooling, I have only ever used the stock OEM cooler so I am not really looking at water cooling. Something like a H70 etc does sound nice and I may go for one when I buy my case. Depends how the bank account is feeling
Thanks again mate and btw this project is looking awesome.
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Yes, arctic reactor is good
Possible logo?
Nice, but it's still a working process so might not be Arctic Reactor
I was thinking hulk as green and powerful but you are right suggests something big. Artic Reactor isn't a bad name, better than my other thought of 'Snotcycle'
If you don't like Reactor as it suggest big, could go for something more like 'Artic Fusion' or 'Cold Fusion'
I do see Fusion as a possible better option (far better from 'SnotCycle')
Thanks for putting so much effort mate, I only expected one or two lines.
I am going to be going to Uni soon which is why I want a little machine so I can take it with me when I am living there then bring it home on the train etc when I come home.
I am certainly sold on either the SG09 or SG10. I will wait and see what price the SG10 comes out at then decide if the nicer looking front is worth the extra
With regards to cooling, I have only ever used the stock OEM cooler so I am not really looking at water cooling. Something like a H70 etc does sound nice and I may go for one when I buy my case. Depends how the bank account is feeling
Thanks again mate and btw this project is looking awesome.
no problemo
I think the Price will be a Little higher on the SG10, but not much.
But as i see it the front is now some really thick alu = extra weight.
About cooler; if you got some high profile RAM, then a watercooler is best.
But low profile, I would tend to the Heligon HE02 (no possible pump noise and the 180mm fan is the cooling fan instead of a 120mm) weight is though a bit higher.
Is you are going for watercooling, check out the new one from Silverstone:
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=398&area=en
Seems like a good cooler to me (cant find some good reviews yet, but it looks more stylies than many other AIO watercoolers) .
Around £100 I have read which isn't too bad.
I have also been looking at the SG02 which again is even smaller. I like the box shape a bit more as well. Decisions decisions!
I just have some "normal" sized ram, not got a heatspreader or anything on it.
I will check that Heligon out mate, cheers for the suggestion.
The Tundra looks interesting also though, may wait and see for some reviews before buying one.
I have also been looking at the SG02 which again is even smaller. I like the box shape a bit more as well. Decisions decisions!
I just have some "normal" sized ram, not got a heatspreader or anything on it.
I will check that Heligon out mate, cheers for the suggestion.
The Tundra looks interesting also though, may wait and see for some reviews before buying one.
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love the painted mobo build looks awesome!!!
build looks awesome!!!
Soldato
******* Awesome dude! Loving the white and green mobo combo
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Hi Guys, sorry it have been such a long time since my last update, but due to Holidays it have been more difficult to get the last parts (which isn't even here yet).
But I got some new information to share;
First of to those who questioned the painted motherboard;
I had it out of the case and tested the board with a H100 and the GPU's on air along the RAM and sleeved PSU.
And it worked just fine, even in stress tests and I did game in quite some time that night
Other than that I got the two radiators installed as well;
(not the best picture, sorry for that)
Once again the Moonson fittings just fits perfectly with the green and white colors
Other than that, I waiting on some parts to get shipped.
The motherboard and CPU will get upgraded to an I7 3930k and Rampage IV Gene (will also get colored white and green).
This upgrade is due to the low bandwidth on the current card (only PCI-e 2.0 x8) which is a bottleneck with the 3xU2711 resolution.
GPU power will also get upgraded, which cards and who many is still in question.
I will update you once again, when new parts arrive
OOH, also, I am looking at building a waterchiller from some 380w TEC (not final yet)
And the CPU it self will also get a TEC to cool it to even lower temps to get higher OC
But I got some new information to share;
First of to those who questioned the painted motherboard;
I had it out of the case and tested the board with a H100 and the GPU's on air along the RAM and sleeved PSU.
And it worked just fine, even in stress tests and I did game in quite some time that night
Other than that I got the two radiators installed as well;
(not the best picture, sorry for that)
Once again the Moonson fittings just fits perfectly with the green and white colors
Other than that, I waiting on some parts to get shipped.
The motherboard and CPU will get upgraded to an I7 3930k and Rampage IV Gene (will also get colored white and green).
This upgrade is due to the low bandwidth on the current card (only PCI-e 2.0 x8) which is a bottleneck with the 3xU2711 resolution.
GPU power will also get upgraded, which cards and who many is still in question.
I will update you once again, when new parts arrive
OOH, also, I am looking at building a waterchiller from some 380w TEC (not final yet)
And the CPU it self will also get a TEC to cool it to even lower temps to get higher OC
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Looking good mate. But not sure on the board. Looks pretty tacky to be honest. But overall. Looking good.
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Hi, I'm sorry that I haven't posted for some time, but there haven't been that much to post about, since my time have been very limited, and the free time have been used to get another "chilling" project up and running with some TECs.
You can se more of that here, and since the chiller will be used on this build, there will also be some smaller updates in here (but the main info and question will be in the other thread, thanks
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18554787
The following was planed for the SG09 build long ago to get some lower temps when at home, but still able to travel with the case without this big side show
And yes, that is a Phobya External Radiator "Bench edition" stand, along with a D5 pump in a EKWB X-RES 140mm housing that have been spray painted white.
The stand only comes in black, and I ran out of paint on a Saturday, and haven't come much further since
BUT it will get painted just as white as all the rest
Then pump will also get a slap of paint. Not sure if I should go green on it or white like the rest.
(what do you think?)
On the other side we got a 9x120mm radiator that is 45mm thick, along the 120mm fans from Antec
I think that the plexi fans are looking really well with the rest, and I will look much better when the radiator stand will get all white.
The fans (there are 47 more of the) are towards the TEC experiment and was sponsored by Antec along some other stuff like a lot of thermal paste.
So a big thanks to Antec
Another package came this Friday including some of the best looking fittings right now (I do to think that acrylic tubing and fittings looks nice, but for me Monsoon fittings and their colors are stuff )
So thanks to Monsoon for sponsoring some fittings for the chiller project
If we take a closer look at the pump/reservoir, you can see that it's not normal water cooling water that is running round in the little loop.
I have always liked the way that some colorful crystals was floating around in a liquid up in chemistry lap.
But most of those crystals was either expensive or very toxic
So when I saw that Mayhems had made a similar product for watercooling, I new I had to have it.
The liquid is Mayhems Green Aurora.
(pump settings was "1" = the lowest)
But the Aurora is not ideally for this chiller experiment, so when that time comes, I will have found something more suitable.
The Aurora is for the looks in the SG09 build
Not sure if it will work as planed due to the may 90 degrees fittings, radiators and blocks, but I have to test right
Also to me it is a little to white, so I will properly get a green dye to make it a bit darker (if it works).
Doesn't those beautiful Monsoon fittings deserve a picture in focus?, I do believe so
Now before we end this update, some of you may think; "that painting will get you higher temps".
And yes, that is correct, BUT the SG09 builds hardware (it will maximum become two R9 290 and a I7 3930k) doesn't really require a radiator like that (I think the 180mm and 120mm rad should do the job), but I really like silence (or my girl does), so I got the radiator just to be sure (it will get quick release fittings so that when going for a Lan, it's easy to disconnect, and I think the two other rads will cool the setup just fine).
As for the chiller, one of these is clearly not enough for the amount of heat I will put into that loop (properly around 4000W).
But more on that in the other thread
Next is to get a new PWM DDC pump (the other one burned on me) and get the things installed and hooked up to the loop (needs a few holes to drill) and get the plexi glass windows cut out and installed.
Also some sleeving needs to be done
Just as a closing picture (don't stare to long at it), the structure of the radiator stand and radiator in background:
You can se more of that here, and since the chiller will be used on this build, there will also be some smaller updates in here (but the main info and question will be in the other thread, thanks
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18554787
The following was planed for the SG09 build long ago to get some lower temps when at home, but still able to travel with the case without this big side show
And yes, that is a Phobya External Radiator "Bench edition" stand, along with a D5 pump in a EKWB X-RES 140mm housing that have been spray painted white.
The stand only comes in black, and I ran out of paint on a Saturday, and haven't come much further since
BUT it will get painted just as white as all the rest
Then pump will also get a slap of paint. Not sure if I should go green on it or white like the rest.
(what do you think?)
On the other side we got a 9x120mm radiator that is 45mm thick, along the 120mm fans from Antec
I think that the plexi fans are looking really well with the rest, and I will look much better when the radiator stand will get all white.
The fans (there are 47 more of the) are towards the TEC experiment and was sponsored by Antec along some other stuff like a lot of thermal paste.
So a big thanks to Antec
Another package came this Friday including some of the best looking fittings right now (I do to think that acrylic tubing and fittings looks nice, but for me Monsoon fittings and their colors are stuff
)So thanks to Monsoon for sponsoring some fittings for the chiller project
If we take a closer look at the pump/reservoir, you can see that it's not normal water cooling water that is running round in the little loop.
I have always liked the way that some colorful crystals was floating around in a liquid up in chemistry lap.
But most of those crystals was either expensive or very toxic
So when I saw that Mayhems had made a similar product for watercooling, I new I had to have it.
The liquid is Mayhems Green Aurora.
(pump settings was "1" = the lowest)
But the Aurora is not ideally for this chiller experiment, so when that time comes, I will have found something more suitable.
The Aurora is for the looks in the SG09 build
Not sure if it will work as planed due to the may 90 degrees fittings, radiators and blocks, but I have to test right
Also to me it is a little to white, so I will properly get a green dye to make it a bit darker (if it works).
Doesn't those beautiful Monsoon fittings deserve a picture in focus?, I do believe so
Now before we end this update, some of you may think; "that painting will get you higher temps".
And yes, that is correct, BUT the SG09 builds hardware (it will maximum become two R9 290 and a I7 3930k) doesn't really require a radiator like that (I think the 180mm and 120mm rad should do the job), but I really like silence (or my girl does), so I got the radiator just to be sure (it will get quick release fittings so that when going for a Lan, it's easy to disconnect, and I think the two other rads will cool the setup just fine
).As for the chiller, one of these is clearly not enough for the amount of heat I will put into that loop (properly around 4000W).
But more on that in the other thread
Next is to get a new PWM DDC pump (the other one burned on me) and get the things installed and hooked up to the loop (needs a few holes to drill) and get the plexi glass windows cut out and installed.
Also some sleeving needs to be done
Just as a closing picture (don't stare to long at it), the structure of the radiator stand and radiator in background: