Who else hates this guy (Gregg Wallace)?

As has been mentioned a number of times and backed up by my wife - we do live in a world of double standards. Women can say and do things and its all just a laugh, if a man was to do exactly the same thing there would be an outrage. Something is either ok to say or do or its not.
 
Bar said:
As has been mentioned a number of times and backed up by my wife - we do live in a world of double standards. Women can say and do things and its all just a laugh, if a man was to do exactly the same thing there would be an outrage. Something is either ok to say or do or its not.
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Yes. It's the predatory nature of some men that makes makes it not ok
 
Nutty667 said:
While I'm sure some of his jokes were far too sexual and his behaviour on some occasions towards women wasn't acceptable, there does seem to be a load of nonsense going on as well.

Take this from BBC website.
"Both Georgina, and her colleague, who we're calling Lisa, also say he came out of a bathroom topless in front of them once during a shoot and asked them to take his coffee order."

So he asked for a coffee while getting ready for a photo/video shoot, and happened to not have a shirt on at this point.

And this is worth complaining about?
Have they never been to a beach or swimming pool and seen topless men ? Last I knew it was completely legal for a bloke to topless in public.
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i believe he also was seen completely naked other than a carefully positioned sock............ which is a little harder to justify :D

(mind you better than being sockless i guess)
 
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Bar said:
As has been mentioned a number of times and backed up by my wife - we do live in a world of double standards. Women can say and do things and its all just a laugh, if a man was to do exactly the same thing there would be an outrage. Something is either ok to say or do or its not.
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Yea my wife, who is 47 (so a middle aged woman?) said she's almost embarrassed to be female because of this stuff.

She thinks the whole thing is ridiculous as well.
 
If someone in your workplace, no matter the gender, said things to colleagues as this person is alleged to have said, would they not get investigated and potentially disciplined? Everywhere I've ever worked they would be and as that'd be considered gross misconduct, they'd most likely be dismissed if found to have done what they were accused of. And rightly so imo.
 
ElliorR said:
If someone in your workplace, no matter the gender, said things to colleagues as this person is alleged to have said, would they not get investigated and potentially disciplined? Everywhere I've ever worked they would be and as that'd be considered gross misconduct, they'd most likely be dismissed if found to have done what they were accused of. And rightly so imo.
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Not if you're the boss . can do what you like
 
tom_e said:
Some women are just as bad if not worse. It's nothing to do with which sex is involved.
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Men and women are different and there are different power dynamics at play. For example, I can't remember the last time I was physically intimidated by a woman, but it's often a concern for women when men are being creepy with them in 121 situations, even if logically they know it's unlikely to turn physical.

Likewise, I'll walk the streets alone at night and think nothing of it, whereas women are much more likely to feel uncomfortable.

Obviously, whether it's a man or a woman, both should be reported in the workplace regardless of who's doing it, but I think if it happened to me, I'd be reporting it in the sense that I wouldn't want it to come back and bite me on the arse, so I'd just be covering my own back.

Efour said:
I work with 90% women and they can be as crude rude n lude as any man or group of men.
Its a class thing.
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It's not about being "crude, rude and lude" in group banter, it's about people making other people feel uncomfortable in 121 situations with them by doing things that only people who've never interacted with the opposite sex would consider jokes. Where's the joke in telling someone you're not wearing boxers under your jeans? Or talking about your sex life with someone you've just met at work?
 
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Ayahuasca said:
Men and women are different and there are different power dynamics at play. For example, I can't remember the last time I was physically intimidated by a woman, but it's often a concern for women when men are being creepy with them in 121 situations, even if logically they know it's unlikely to turn physical.
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100%. Impossible to get cross at being treated differently when the playing field is so uneven.
 
If I'm honest.

I don't like MasterChef, it's BBC tripe, give me hairy bikers anyday (proper cooking and RIP) this stuff is pretentious nonsense.

I also don't like Greg Wallace, I think he's a bell end.

But do I think he did anything wrong here, no, not in the slightest.
 
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