Who uses sunbeds?

I've gone and sent a message by trust to Osprey since he's not being a douche about it. I had expected people might have taken my word for it without having to do that. I'm not prepared to discuss my intimate medical health on a public forum.

He did trust me, and it would appear that on this occasion a Sunbed could be beneficial, as he claims.
 
Sunshine is very good for you as long as you dont get red/burnt.

There's a lot of research coming out that sun screens dont help at all against cancer, in fact a lot of the chemicals can increase cancer.

The best is to cover up with hats and long sleeves in the sun, but get a little bit exposure to brown slowly without any burning.
 
I have a feeling a lot of this stems from what people are witness too at a young age, made to think that having a tan means anything, personally it's wrong for me to say it's stupid (I've done other things unrelated - but stopped ) but it really is stupid.

People who take it to the extremes with lotions and all that, WHAT THE.
 
It's funny how anything done to improve the way you look is considered gay and vain by members of OcUK, but at the same time those same members probably sit in their room all day, wear those awful geeky t-shirts and never speak to women. I wonder why... :p

I go on a sunbed sometimes. Big deal! I look a lot better lightly tanned than I did when I was a sickly pale colour. That makes it worthwhile for me.
 
Enjoy your myriad of health issue from low vitamin D.

I spend plenty of time outside, no worries here.

Funnily enough I happen to be doing a PhD developing a treatment for skin cancer and the first big no-no is sun beds.

Most sun creams/lotions will protect against UVB induced damage to a degree, for a short period, but not UVA, which penetrates much further into the skin (and thus causes more damage to this upper layers of the skin). Just because UVA reaches further down that UVB doesn't mean that UVA isn't causing damage to the upper layers. Basal cell and squamous cell carcinomas are far more common in sunnier areas with Caucasian populations and those that have high levels of radon, such as South West England.

There are developments into new compounds to add to sun creams and hopefully I'll be collaborating with one of the leading researchers in the field, in September!
 
I do worry a little about the cancer idea. But when I have a bit colour my muscles look defined and I feel better about myself.

I prefer to have a tan and feel happier in myself than be white and even more self conscious.
 
I spend plenty of time outside, no worries here.

Funnily enough I happen to be doing a PhD developing a treatment for skin cancer and the first big no-no is sun beds.

Most sun creams/lotions will protect against UVB induced damage to a degree, for a short period, but not UVA, which penetrates much further into the skin (and thus causes more damage to this upper layers of the skin). Just because UVA reaches further down that UVB doesn't mean that UVA isn't causing damage to the upper layers. Basal cell and squamous cell carcinomas are far more common in sunnier areas with Caucasian populations and those that have high levels of radon, such as South West England.

There are developments into new compounds to add to sun creams and hopefully I'll be collaborating with one of the leading researchers in the field, in September!

Have you done any research into the peptide Melanotan II? IIRC it provides a defence against skin cancer.
 
It's funny how anything done to improve the way you look is considered gay and vain by members of OcUK, but at the same time those same members probably sit in their room all day, wear those awful geeky t-shirts and never speak to women. I wonder why... :p

I go on a sunbed sometimes. Big deal! I look a lot better lightly tanned than I did when I was a sickly pale colour. That makes it worthwhile for me.

If you feel the need to use a sunbed perhaps you're the one spending too long inside... other people who actually go on holidays and spend time outdoors don't feel the need to use them...

Sporting a tan in the middle of winter looks a bit ridiculous anyway
 
It's 2012 all us guys do it... Right? :-\
Funny you made this thread as it was only last week i was thinking of using one them sun beds...

As i normally get a nice sun tan every summer from working outside in shorts but this year the summer been so bad i can't see me getting any sun tan at work this year..:mad:
 
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If you feel the need to use a sunbed perhaps you're the one spending too long inside... other people who actually go on holidays and spend time outdoors don't feel the need to use them...

Sporting a tan in the middle of winter looks a bit ridiculous anyway

I do go on holidays (I got back from one last month and hopefully going on another in two weeks) and spend time outdoors. I can easily get a tan in the 40°C heat of Vegas, but for some reason I remain pale in any weather in the UK, hence the reason I use a sunbed. If only to stop myself looking ill...

It's not winter.
 
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Have you done any research into the peptide Melanotan II? IIRC it provides a defence against skin cancer.

No, as far as I'm aware it's been "proven" for a couple of years but as of yet there are no approved therapies.

I'm sceptical of it too. Whilst it may cause a natural tanning process to occur, it's not going to fully prevent the penetration of UV light, nor protect all of the vulnerable skin cells against damage. Darker skinned people can still get skin cancer despite their increase melatonin levels. What you want is a compound that is activated by UV light and subsequently protects against the damaging reactive oxygen species generated.

One of the downsides to that proposed method would be the lack of protection against direct UV-induced DNA damage.

At the moment my main interest is treatment of already existing skin cancers, specifically basal and squamous cell carcinomas, but if this collaboration goes well I may have the option of moving into more preventative research.
 
I spend plenty of time outside, no worries here.

Funnily enough I happen to be doing a PhD developing a treatment for skin cancer and the first big no-no is sun beds.

Most sun creams/lotions will protect against UVB induced damage to a degree, for a short period, but not UVA, which penetrates much further into the skin (and thus causes more damage to this upper layers of the skin). Just because UVA reaches further down that UVB doesn't mean that UVA isn't causing damage to the upper layers. Basal cell and squamous cell carcinomas are far more common in sunnier areas with Caucasian populations and those that have high levels of radon, such as South West England.

There are developments into new compounds to add to sun creams and hopefully I'll be collaborating with one of the leading researchers in the field, in September!

So if you use sun screen you are not going to get burnt and so you will spend more time outside and get a much bigger exposure to the UVA.

So using no sun screen at all would be better as long as you dont get burnt, because you will build a natural protection (a tan) and whatever gene expression upregulates to protect/repair your skin. The vitamin D production is actually an antiinflammatory defense mechanism against the stress of the sun damage, but it has a knock on effect for bone health, etc.

Then after that you get the "stimulating" amount of sunshine with no sunscreen, you should use a rashguard and hat so you dont get the unnaturally prolonged UVA exposure. And of course the "stimulation" duration would gradually increase as your skin built up a tan.

Would that make sense?

And maybe the problem with sunbeds is the bulb simply produces too much UVA?
 
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