Who with a 8800 series is getting R600?

uvarvu · 29 Jan 2007 at 12:03

I probably will and have planned for it somewhat. I could have bought a 680 board and gone SLI but stuck with a Badaxe 2 and a single GTX in the end.

I didn't go all out on my GTX either, I bought a gainward on the deal that OcUK set up.

gotheb1ues · 29 Jan 2007 at 12:19

if it scores more than 13.8 in 3Dmark06 with a quad core at 3.6 count me in.

About 14.5k and i am definatly in...

gotheb1ues · 29 Jan 2007 at 12:22

lay-z-boy said:
ATI will probably release drivers that support the card 2-3 months after it comes out

If its a good, and a decent step up from the 8800gtx, then i will move over to it, if its only slight then chances are im not going to bother till 8800 refresh.

Just like the 8800 doesn't have official drivers yet after 3 months( for vista i mean).

Jimbo · 29 Jan 2007 at 14:12

Theres no way I will be going r600, I bought the 8800GTX for dx10/vista.. and its a great card.

Dont care how good the r600 is even if its 2 times better, who cares, thisll baby does me loverly.

fornowagain · 29 Jan 2007 at 14:26

Shocky-FM said:
Anyone who bought one on launch knows what they were selling for so theres no point pretending they were selling for less.

They were selling for less, mine was well short of £450 for a top brand. OcUK had good stock of the BFG, prices changed a bit during the day £487>£493>£500, finally settled at £493. I think from memory, they were the only retailer to not go out of stock since release.

Tute said:
Yeah but the advantage is that ATi have seen the G80 in it's glory, they know how fast it is, and have had time benchmarking one alongside an R600.

The bar was raised with the 8800, and ATi knew where they had to aim to keep competitive. With G81, where do they aim? Who knows?

We've only seen the first iteration of the G80, no die shrink, no optimisations. First dip in the water. Just because ATi have dissected the G80 doesn't mean they're not scrambling to catch up. They may have had to compromise to get something comparable to market, could be a Frankensteins monster. Without some real specs its all conjecture and an albeit interesting waste of time. 4 years development for the G80 and the performance it delivered is going to take quite a bit to jump ahead. I hope they do.

Shocky-FM · 29 Jan 2007 at 15:02

fornowagain said:
They were selling for less, mine was well short of £450 for a top brand. OcUK had good stock of the BFG, prices changed a bit during the day £487>£493>£500, finally settled at £493. I think from memory, they were the only retailer to not go out of stock since release.
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Strange, you state prices of around £490.. So is it not fair to say on launch they were selling for around £450 given some were a little less and some a little more? God you people are petty. :eek:

fornowagain · 29 Jan 2007 at 15:52

Shocky-FM said:
Strange, you state prices of around £490.. So is it not fair to say on launch they were selling for around £450 given some were a little less and some a little more? God you people are petty.

Shocky-FM said:
At launch 8800GTX was £450

Shocky-FM said:
But almost all sites were selling them for around £450 and some higher, some of the largely unknown brands were a little less but most were around £450 and some higher. Anyone who bought one on launch knows what they were selling for so theres no point pretending they were selling for less.

I know OCUK was upto £450 but I don't shop here, I'd list all the sites that were selling it for 450+ on launch but considering where we are thats not going to happen.

Facts is facts. You said people were pretending top brands weren't available for less than £450, you're wrong, they were. You also said OcUK were up to £450, you're wrong again, they were more. That's not petty, just accurate. Without a lot more information, I'm unwilling to guess the average price sold on the day. It would be "fair to say" that £450 is your guess at the average. I suspect in actuality it should be higher.

Tute · 29 Jan 2007 at 15:58

fornowagain said:
We've only seen the first iteration of the G80, no die shrink, no optimisations. First dip in the water. Just because ATi have dissected the G80 doesn't mean they're not scrambling to catch up. They may have had to compromise to get something comparable to market, could be a Frankensteins monster. Without some real specs its all conjecture and an albeit interesting waste of time. 4 years development for the G80 and the performance it delivered is going to take quite a bit to jump ahead. I hope they do.

That's fair, however how long has R600 been in development?

fornowagain · 29 Jan 2007 at 16:07

Tute said:
That's fair, however how long has R600 been in development?

Don't know and a fair point, must be awhile if its a planned development of the Xenos. Company profiles don't change that much, bearing in mind AMD purchase. Given a limited impact on the R600, assuming this follows previous design ethos. Anyone care to guess based on previous next gen releases what ATi will attempt? Will it just be an all out attempt to get in front or a well thought out design?

There is a brief mention on the R600, last page of these Crysis result with a G80. Hope they improve the framerates for release.

Page 1, Page 2, Page 3, Page 4.

matja · 29 Jan 2007 at 16:10

It'd have to be over 25% faster AND have decent Linux drivers for me to switch from my 8800GTX to a R600. I have doubts if either would become true, let alone both.

The recent talk of the new power connectors that the R600 will use seems a bit silly too. Seems to me that ATI are just doing whatever it takes to get a faster GPU out without considering anything else.

Gerard · 29 Jan 2007 at 16:35

I think upgrading for the sake of it is a phase a lot of people (including myself) go through before finally it gets boring and stupid.

Hardware prices are getting utterly retarded and upgrading is just getting to be a joke. Who woulda thought 2 or 3 years back that regular motherboards would be hiked upto £200+ just for some bs "zomg it overclocks more" claim?

I really wish id stuck to my p4 3.2@4ghz which gave me no trouble whatsoever, this pos dfi board cost £175 and is by far one of the biggest piles of horse**** ive ever had the displeasure of owning. Unfortunately i fell for the hype of amd's being so much faster in gaming at the time, ended up getting a dual core opteron, clocked it to 2.7ghz and in gaming terms i see no improvement over the p4.

Shocky-FM · 29 Jan 2007 at 17:15

fornowagain said:
Facts is facts. You said people were pretending top brands weren't available for less than £450, you're wrong, they were. You also said OcUK were up to £450, you're wrong again, they were more. That's not petty, just accurate. Without a lot more information, I'm unwilling to guess the average price sold on the day. It would be "fair to say" that £450 is your guess at the average. I suspect in actuality it should be higher.

You are being petty, I never said every 8800GTX costs that much. I was refering to what the average price for the card was which was pretty obvious. Otherwise why would I say some cost more and some less. But well done with the selective quoting.. :rolleyes:

fornowagain · 29 Jan 2007 at 17:34

Shocky-FM said:
You are being petty, I never said every 8800GTX costs that much. I was refering to what the average price for the card was which was pretty obvious. Otherwise why would I say some cost more and some less. But well done with the selective quoting..

Shocky-FM said:
How are you working that out exactly? At launch 8800GTX was £450 and now you will be lucky to sell for £350 even now. R600 will probably also cost around £450 or more considering it is ment to have 1GB of memory so right there is a £200 loss or do you exclude the price you originally paid for the card? lol

I'm not and just quoting you directly, nothing selective, I've only remove irrelevant comments. Your first statement was to Easyrider saying that a GTX cost £450. Nothing about averages, just a big bold inaccurate statement, hardly an obvious reference to averages. I'm just telling you a top name brand from a big retailer didn't cost that much on release day morning, I know I bought it. Unless you are trying to be facetious and you want to generalise statements with averages then say so, but it be nice if you actually had some real information to back it up. I tabulated every retailer I could find on the day and followed all the prices by the quarter hour. I ordered 4 and canceled 3 to get the best price. Personally if I had to guess looking at my tabulation I'd place the average price higher than £450, but I'd not use that as a statement of fact.

Shocky-FM · 29 Jan 2007 at 18:02

fornowagain said:
I'm not and just quoting you directly, nothing selective, I've only remove irrelevant comments. Your first statement was to Easyrider saying that a GTX cost £450. Nothing about averages, just a big bold inaccurate statement, hardly an obvious reference to averages. I'm just telling you a top name brand from a big retailer didn't cost that much on release day morning, I know I bought it. Unless you are trying to be facetious and you want to generalise statements with averages then say so, but it be nice if you actually had some real information to back it up. I tabulated every retailer I could find on the day and followed all the prices by the quarter hour. I ordered 4 and canceled 3 to get the best price. Personally if I had to guess looking at my tabulation I'd place the average price higher than £450, but I'd not use that as a statement of fact.

Right so its based purely on the fact I didnt include the word average or around in a few comments.. ohhh noess. /me slaps rist..

You know if you just responded to the first one then maybe you could get away with that but it was explained in the other posts so stop talking out your ass.

fornowagain · 29 Jan 2007 at 18:04

Shocky-FM said:
Right so its based purely on the fact I didnt include the word average or around in a few comments.. ohhh noess. /me slaps rist..

You know if you just responded to the first one then maybe you could get away with that but it was explained in the other posts so stop talking out your ass.

In fact I did. And my comments are based on using the correct information.

My response.

fornowagain said:
Mine was less. BFG was a lot more than that, nearer £500 at one point..

You continued on spouting rubbish.

Shocky-FM · 29 Jan 2007 at 18:06

fornowagain said:
I did

My response.

You continued on spouting rubbish.

Yet you still made all these stupid petty posts knowing exactly what I meant because by the time you got here it was already explained..

fornowagain · 29 Jan 2007 at 18:11

Shocky-FM said:
Yet you still made all these stupid petty posts knowing exactly what I meant because by the time you got here it was already explained..

In was an inaccurate statement, that two people corrected you on and you still had to justify your comments. Now you insult others as stupid and petty, many thanks.

lay-z-boy · 29 Jan 2007 at 18:15

fornowagain said:
*snip*

1.7FPS on an 8800gtx without the highest settings for the freakin' win!!

Shocky-FM · 29 Jan 2007 at 18:15

fornowagain said:
In was an inaccurate statement, that two people corrected you on and you still had to justify your comments.

Not exactly, you replied after I explained what I ment and then quoted it again claiming nowhere did I say it was the average.. So saying "around £450" means what? discribing a price which sits between the highest and lowest means what? lol..

fornowagain · 29 Jan 2007 at 18:23

Shocky-FM said:
Not exactly, you replied after I explained what I ment and then quoted it again claiming nowhere did I say it was the average.. So saying "around £450" means what? discribing a price which sits between the highest and lowest means what? lol..

Nope wrong again.

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Shocky-FM said:
How are you working that out exactly? At launch 8800GTX was £450 and now you will be lucky to sell for £350 even now. R600 will probably also cost around £450 or more considering it is ment to have 1GB of memory so right there is a £200 loss or do you exclude the price you originally paid for the card? lol

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fornowagain said:
Mine was less. BFG was a lot more than that, nearer £500 at one point..

Then LoadsaMoney picks you up on it #97

LoadsaMoney said:
I wish ppl would get it right, at launch the 8800 GTX was NOT £450, that was one etailers price, how you get that that was the launch price ill never know.

Then you started justifing yourself #123

Shocky-FM said:
But almost all sites were selling them for around £450 and some higher, some of the largely unknown brands were a little less but most were around £450 and some higher. Anyone who bought one on launch knows what they were selling for so theres no point pretending they were selling for less.

I know OCUK was upto £450 but I don't shop here, I'd list all the sites that were selling it for 450+ on launch but considering where we are thats not going to happen.