Who works in Enterprise IT

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was gutted about it, money was good and the role sounded v good too. Going to build my skills up again before looking at the bigger ms partner / HP partner orgs

It's like all these organisations, the money may be good but you'll not see any decent pay rise over time and the role may seem good but the reality is probably not ...
 
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I work for a division of an LEA which provides entire network infrastructure, environment and all-level support for schools which choose to purchase it in the area. They're linked via a private WAN and are as such all on one domain. We currently have 13 schools, three of which are full size secondaries, for a total of 1500 client machines and 17 DCs.

Dell for machines and servers, Netgear/Cisco for network core/wired infrastructure, Cisco with full RADIUS/IAS authentication for wireless.
 
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Rolling out a new vpn over the next few weeks then moving the mail system from MDaemon (why does anyone use this ****?) to exchange 2007. Fun times ahead :cool:
I can assure you Mdaemon is great compared with FirstClass. When the current headmaster started at the school I manage he insisted we dump Mdaemon for FC and I don't think anyone else on the staff is happy with it. FC seems to be the bits the Notes developers throught were too nasty even for Notes.....
 
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I've been in the industry for over thirty years and my resume reads like a roll-call of dead or dying companies. I don't whether it's something I do to them or if I'm just unlucky....
The main 'highlights' were:
Nine years at Wang, initially in second-level tech support in the City then network management for Wang Europe.
Five years at an outsourcing company, three of them running the servers at Wokingham District Council.

These days I'm semi-retired, having moved out of London, just scuttling back occasionally to look after the foreign school I manage.
 
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I don't work in Enterprise IT, sometimes I wish I did. There are only seven full time staff and 4 contractors but this isn't my day job I'm a .Net developer by education but my job titles include Senior developer, Network admin, Database admin, Server support and technical purchaser. It must be nice to work in a large team and refer issues to other teams but its a fun old job keeping everything together on a limited budget.

We have five servers, one mail server two switches and a Cisco router & SDSL modem all in a non air-conditioned room at the back of the office, a very far cry from some of the posh setups some people have.
 
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There's not massive teams in Enterprise IT. I guess that depends what you class as Enterprise.

My last job there was 7 in Second/Third Line engineers (300 ish servers). This job theres 4 (250ish servers) so it's swings and roundabouts. If you're good (like we hopefully all are at this level) then it's not a problem.



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Interesting thread.

I've been officially working in IT for 3 and a half years so not too long relatively. Saying that, I've only been employed as an "anything" since 2003!

I'm in Infrastructure for a large company working on two defence contracts.

Skillset is quite alright with knowledge of your standard MS product set (Server, Exchange, SQL + system centre products), VMWare VI3 (VCP), Cisco - CCNP and CCSP, have knowledge of JUNOS but alas no formal certification, indepth knowledge of NetApp FAS, EMC Clariion/Symmetrix + various storage network protocols. Unfortunately I'm also Citrix CCEA qualified.

I'm also ITIL trained (har).

I'm working on my CISSP but don't yet have the full criteria to go for it :( Also going to get my NCDA for NetApp and CCDA->CCDP for Cisco after Summer.

Tin is tin mostly, I've got experience with a lot of the Dell/HP/IBM product set and obviously the management tools.... *vendor lock in* :p!!!

For me, IT is a tad boring and relatively easy. I have a good mind for logic and consuming info so it lends itself quite well. Trends change but again can (mostly) be easily read. I tend to focus on upcoming projects which gives me quite a lot of exposure to new tech....

The fun for me is integrating IT within the business and making the business see real returns on their money.
 
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MDaemon is a really nice product if you take the time to learn how it works. It may look 'low rent' but its spot on.

I know of at least one ISP (albeit a pretty small one) that used to use it as an SMTP server. Way back in the day I used to install it in many small business environments and it just worked fine.
 
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9 x DCs
2 x Exchange servers (both on 2003, migrating to 2007 soon)
2 x terminal servers for small client boxes (which are ****)
everything else running single tasks

What kind of school needs nine Domain Controllers? Unless of course your school is scattered across a lot of remote sites?

Back when i was IT Manager for a school I had the following:

2 X 2003 Domain Controller - HP DL380G4
1 x 2003 Storage Server NAS - HP
1 x SharePoint 2007 Server - Dell 6850 a.k.a The Beast
1 x Google Box (go me!)
1 x 2003 Terminal Server - HP DEL380G4
1 x Apple Xeon XServe. - Enough said!

LEA funded poorly performing school well apart from IT kit which was brilliant!

Current project is to setup 2 x Dell PowerEdge R905 Virtualisation Servers and an EqualLogic PS5000E iSCSI SAN with Windows 2008 and Hyper-V as a test bed for moving to Virtualisation. I think we may go VMWare ESX.

Once proven (I.e. failover works) then it will be reloaded with 2008 + Exchange 2007 in failover mode.

However I am aiming to get out of the technical side and (back) into management. So i will be doing ITIL and Prince2 but I will also be doing my 2008 MCSE upgrade.

So I am kind of Enterpirse just in the Public Sector!
 
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What kind of school needs nine
Current project is to setup 2 x Dell PowerEdge R905 Virtualisation Servers and an EqualLogic PS5000E iSCSI SAN with Windows 2008 and Hyper-V as a test bed for moving to Virtualisation. I think we may go VMWare ESX.

Once proven (I.e. failover works) then it will be reloaded with 2008 + Exchange 2007 in failover mode.

Whilst a hypervisor is pretty much a hypervisor, VMWare's myriad of tools eclipse the Microsoft offering at the mo. I understand you wanting to test the kit but it'd be easier going straight in to testing with ESX/DRS/VMotion.

The issue with two hosts if you are going to use HA/VMotion is that if one host fails physically, the other host will become heavily loaded, ie crippled. I'd always recommend 3 hosts if possible.

With regards to virtualising Exchange, what sort of load are you looking at?

I like the Equallogic kit, have for a while. Are you purchasing through a VAR?
 
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Whilst the EqualLogic kit is good (I've put in a couple of PS400E's myself) the sheer fact that you have to buy another SAN to add more capacity is quite mind boggling. If you know that you will not outgrow the storage and you have a finite limit then cool, EqualLogic *might* be a good choice. However if you think you might need more capacity at some point there's no other choice but to buy another EQL unit. You can't add disk shelves (last time I looked anyway).

True - however this allows for scaling of a virtual SAN far past the limits of a traditional SAN (eg a CX3-10 from EMC can only have a max of 60 drives). It also means that you do not bottleneck the connections from the storage processors from the SAN fabric, as every tray of disk you add has two additional controllers, with another 6x 1GB ports (active/passive). The Scale-out instead of Scale-up approach really pays dividends when comparing sheed load and access traffic from the hosts to the SAN.

Plus the fact that all software is included in the price (snapping/mirroring/thin provisioning/storage virtualisation etc), it rapidly becomes a very strong offering....especially for server virtualisation.
 
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Whilst the EqualLogic kit is good (I've put in a couple of PS400E's myself) the sheer fact that you have to buy another SAN to add more capacity is quite mind boggling. If you know that you will not outgrow the storage and you have a finite limit then cool, EqualLogic *might* be a good choice. However if you think you might need more capacity at some point there's no other choice but to buy another EQL unit. You can't add disk shelves (last time I looked anyway).

If you are looking down the iSCSI route then might I suggest you have a look at Compellent or even a NetApp 3000 series as it would probably come in at the same cost and with a lot more features to boot.

And I agree with Shaz]sigh[, Microsoft's offering of virtualisation is shambolic, it will take them at least another couple of years to get anywhere near VMware. Unless of course they buy them out *shudder*.

They are part of EMC, and i can't see EMC parting with the most promising side of their business.
 
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Not so sure about that. There's rumours Intel want VMWare.

The hypervisor market is/is due to become commoditised and it's only a matter of time until Citrix/MS catch up....

Re: the Equallogic, as Nick said, there's definitely a market for the product, mostly SMB and projects.

Companies get very wary when it comes to the idea of forklift upgrades and the whole notion of relicensing the software based on the head. Having a slight price overhead of buying another SAN is easier for them than plotting the rate of change and including it within the finance forecasting. Especially when the Equallogic marketing pitch an upgrade as a performance uplift due to the extra controllers.... fair enough but spindles are everything!
 
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I used to be an IBM engineer, did the lot, laptops, desktops, servers, hardware and software, not so hot on the server side of the software, didn't really venture that deep into exchange and active directory, never migrated a server =|

This was for an IBM partner, supporting quite a few local businesses, and a few not so local ones. This was pretty much the job that made me want to get into the computer business as a career.

Wouldn't say i have any skills though :(
 
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I hope not. I'd give up my VCP if they did! ;)

With regards to the EqualLogic, well I guess each their own. I was due to put some units in at another client site but NetApp matched and bettered the quote I got for the EQL units. A FAS3040c vs EQL, no contest in my opinion.

Incidentally, what price did your 3040c come out at? What software options and what discount level did you get? Was it just a single site or was there a single controller elsewhere?

I'm just in another bid process with NetApp at the mo and feel I have a decent offer but need to check the market.
 
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Noob! :p

Shaz]sigh[;11735570 said:
Whilst a hypervisor is pretty much a hypervisor, VMWare's myriad of tools eclipse the Microsoft offering at the mo. I understand you wanting to test the kit but it'd be easier going straight in to testing with ESX/DRS/VMotion.

The issue with two hosts if you are going to use HA/VMotion is that if one host fails physically, the other host will become heavily loaded, ie crippled. I'd always recommend 3 hosts if possible.

With regards to virtualising Exchange, what sort of load are you looking at?

I like the Equallogic kit, have for a while. Are you purchasing through a VAR?

I haven't got the worlds biggest budget to play with for the testing. The live virtualisation would have more servers. As far as Exchange goes we currently have about a thousand users on our GroupWise system and mail usage is rising.

We always buy our Dell kit through VARs rather than direct from Dell.
 
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