Why are Apple computers used in Adds?

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That's the thing that gets me, they're not good performers when put up against a PC of an equal pricetag.

You mean performance as in pure benchmarking.

Thats a fair point, however raw figures are not the only method of quantifying performance. I mean ease of use and appeal are also part of how well computer performs to an individual.

I believe the difference in the price is down to the general build quality of the products. I generally believe they cost more to produce than a standard PC equivalent. In terms of the cases as well as some of the hardware apple produce, I mean the motherboard on my old mac mini was just staggeringly packed, you could barely see any PCB on it. I realise this is a collaboration of work between Intel and Apple but you have to appreciate the cost in making things so small, well packaged (chassis) and developing a complete operating system on top of that.
 
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Thats a fair point, however raw figures are not the only method of quantifying performance. I mean ease of use and appeal are also part of how well computer performs to an individual.
I'd agree with this, however I think it proves why Macs are not worth the money.

We have a bunch of Powermac G5s in my office which the designers use. Have you ever tried to network Macs? My advice, don't.

Also just as a real-world example, the G5's (which were about £2k IIRC) take about 25-30 seconds to open PS CS2. My £400 desktop takes less than 15. Opening a large PSD over the network on the macs is akin to loading a game from a casette tape on a spectrum, minus the screeching.
 
In other words companies are regularly flauniting the fact that they are spending £2000 on something that a £400 pc could do....

And?

Basically what you are saying is that everyone who buys a mac is stupid because they could get something for less to do the same job.

I use both systems regularly, Windows 7 *almost* made me build a i7 PC but it didn't. I bought a Mac Pro, and now it works perfectly. (OK it was 3 months but if I had changed the cable at the start then it wouldn't have been an issue but nevermind that...)

People pay for this "overpriced tat" because it is 100% worth it.

My MBP was £300ish over the equiv dell, and my GOD I thank myself for doing that now I've actually seen what the equivalent was (A mate at uni bought it), its heavy, loud, battery life sucks, worse performance even tho its the same hardware :confused: etc.

So go and take your stupid comments elsewhere.

I'd agree with this, however I think it proves why Macs are not worth the money.

We have a bunch of Powermac G5s in my office which the designers use. Have you ever tried to network Macs? My advice, don't.

Also just as a real-world example, the G5's (which were about £2k IIRC) take about 25-30 seconds to open PS CS2. My £400 desktop takes less than 15. Opening a large PSD over the network on the macs is akin to loading a game from a casette tape on a spectrum, minus the screeching.

£400 desktop built when? Disk specs? Memory size? My MBP opens CS4 in 20ish secs from cold and MP about 10 secs.

And Networking macs is easy as? What's the problem? It took one tick box to share my Mac Pro to my Macbook Pro. I've yet to manage to get XP or Windows 7 to communicate with each other on the most simplest of sharing tasks.

I've had:

Performa 630, Powermac 6100, 7600, 8600, Beige G4, B&W G4, 2 x PM G4 MDD, iBook G4, June 2007 MBP, iPhone 2G, Early 2009 Mac Pro, iPhone 3GS.

Up until the silly DVI issue with the MP its been perfect.

In the same time I've built PCs, bought Dells (Optiplex GX1), etc. And NEVER will I again, the hassle sometimes is just, unbelievable!

So that's 15 years of using both, my father is at 20 years of using both and we are both, firmly from experience, Apple users.



Its stupid we have to debate this over, and over and over. Its our money, we do what the hell we want with it. If you don't want to part with the cash then don't, just don't criticise the fact we do.

Its like buying a 1.5 Golf over a 1.5 Kia, same size car, same engine, Golf looks better, will probably last better and is generally a nicer car to drive.

I think this topic has gone off track abit, lock/delete?
 
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It's because Macs are crap because they only have one mouse button and can only play basic games before they crash and melt.
 

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They are?! :confused:

They have standard x86 internals and nVidia graphics now. I play DAOC on my new MacBook Pro.

Not had the chance to try and games on the new stuff, wonder if we can get away with a Lan game of Doom or something :p

+ dont use the standard mouse,we threw 100+ in the skip recently they are worthless, never taken one out of the packet in the 4 years I have been working with macs now.
 
You're doing it wrong :P

Why do I need to justify my purchase to you? I use it - it does everything I need quickly, efficiently with lots of little design points that do their job well.

Seems odd that people have to point out the differences. If you were entirely satisfied then you'd not be worried about it.
 
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Also just as a real-world example, the G5's (which were about £2k IIRC) take about 25-30 seconds to open PS CS2. My £400 desktop takes less than 15. Opening a large PSD over the network on the macs is akin to loading a game from a casette tape on a spectrum, minus the screeching.

G5 is so old that it's support is dropped in Snow Leopard (next OSX release in September).

What's you PC spec?
 
G5's suck badly, only got one left here and it spins the fans up just opening mail or something basic like that, cant wait to get rid of it!
 
Why do I need to justify my purchase to you? I use it - it does everything I need quickly, efficiently with lots of little design points that do their job well.

Because you are posting in a thread which has gone OT into a comparison between like products?
Whether it does what you want is a pretty mute point if the other does it better as people are saying here...

Personally i would rather have a VAIO than a mac if i was paying out my nose for superficial things
 
Ah, I knew you'd come around eventually ;)

Yeah I just hate them. They suck so bad, anyone that uses one is obviously gay.

Same goes for people that have iPhones, they're only fashion accessories, nothing more, so pointless, no point in them existing.

Anyway, I'm off to slit my wrists and take a whole jar of sleeping pills whilst I burn photos of Steve Jobs to show my hatred towards a computer company.
 

They used to be overpriced, but if we compare apples to apples... as it were ;)

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