why are magic mushrooms illegal

Shayper · 13 Sep 2011 at 01:12

I've never tried shrooms, but as I understand from friends there seems to be no negative effects?

I have smoked weed for quite a while, and would definitely agree that the most dangerous thing in a joint is the tobacco (however I smoke regular cigs to so hey

).

However I can imagine if they were to legalize non harmful drugs like weed and shrooms there would be massive outcry from some dogooders somewhere, probably along the lines of "OMGROFLWTFBBQ WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?!?!"

StriderX · 13 Sep 2011 at 01:14

Shayper said:
I've never tried shrooms, but as I understand from friends there seems to be no negative effects?

I have smoked weed for quite a while, and would definitely agree that the most dangerous thing in a joint is the tobacco (however I smoke regular cigs to so hey ).

However I can imagine if they were to legalize non harmful drugs like weed and shrooms there would be massive outcry from some dogooders somewhere, probably along the lines of "OMGROFLWTFBBQ WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?!?!"

Funny considering its the children that are the ones who like the feeling of going against the rule of the land.

I can bet if it was legalised, use of said drugs would drop, though it may rise slowly after that.

Either way i know you were making a joke.

jp_bl_68 · 13 Sep 2011 at 01:19

Shayper said:
I've never tried shrooms, but as I understand from friends there seems to be no negative effects?

Bad trips are the only negative side effect (unless you're a numpty and try flying off the top of a tall building). That's assuming you consume the correct mushroom. There are some mushrooms that grow in the UK that look similar to shrooms but are actually highly toxic, like Death Caps.

Shayper · 13 Sep 2011 at 01:31

StriderX said:
Funny considering its the children that are the ones who like the feeling of going against the rule of the land.

I can bet if it was legalised, use of said drugs would drop, though it may rise slowly after that.

Either way i know you were making a joke.

jp_bl_68 said:
Bad trips are the only negative side effect (unless you're a numpty and try flying off the top of a tall building). That's assuming you consume the correct mushroom. There are some mushrooms that grow in the UK that look similar to shrooms but are actually highly toxic, like Death Caps.

Ah right, thanks for the explanation. So it's like the fact that there's a chance of getting drunk, and then diving into a load of foam surrounded by a bouncy castle - because you thought that as the walls were bouncy, that the foam would be also - and breaking your nose; because, as you would probably realise whilst sober, the floor underneath is concrete.

Yes, that happened to me. So it's probably a good idea for me to not take shrooms

Psycho Sonny · 13 Sep 2011 at 01:38

Tefal said:
Alcohol has done more damage to peoples mental health than any other drug, so i don't think you can use "well if mental people take it it could go **** up" as a valid excuse.

if alcohol was invented today along with tobacco, they would both be most likely classed as illegal after testing

Klo · 13 Sep 2011 at 03:04

To all those claiming that alcohol is more damaging that drugs, bare in mind how widespread the use of alcohol is. You need to be looking at the 'damage per use' of the various drugs, and I imagine (although I have no proof), that it would be higher for many (not all) drugs.

Saying that, as someone who has never drunk or smoked, I would happily ban both of those as well if I was in charge and could get away with it.

Robbo · 13 Sep 2011 at 03:34

There are a worrying amount of people on here that seem to think illegal drugs are illegal just 'for the lulz', like there is no actual science or reason behind it at all. Well, there is, some of you just choose to ignore it.

compboyo · 13 Sep 2011 at 03:42

because they are magical

and its against the wizards code to steal and eat their mushrooms without permission.

gurusan · 13 Sep 2011 at 03:47

Shrooms are highly toxic and have a high potential for abuse. It would be stupid to make them legal. Yes, the same can be said for alcohol and tobacco, but a shrooming kid is far more likely to do something fatal than a drunk person...barely.
Lines have to be drawn somewhere.

Marijuana, on the other hand, is a completely different story.

LOAM · 13 Sep 2011 at 07:00

Because the king of the potato people said so.

Larkspeed · 13 Sep 2011 at 07:02

As someone already said the reason they are illegal is because they are a mind altering drug that grow wild so the government has no form of control over.

If governments can't control the distribution of something they tend to make it illegal and enforce it instead.

They are generally harmless in themselves as they do not directly do damage to your body however people under their influence tend to do things that injure themselves, others or both, and since they have a compound effect in that the more you take the stronger the effect this is why the government wants to control them.

Here in The Netherlands marijuana is not illegal but mushrooms have been since 2008 as the effects are more severe and fall into the class A category.

And just out of interest it's not actually the mushrooms themselves that are illegal but the Psilocybin and psilocin that are in them, they are both Schedule 1 drugs under the UN

krooton · 13 Sep 2011 at 07:19

GhostlyPea said:
Quite true, at the same some no evidence doesn't mean it can't. Anyway I'm not disputing that it made him mentally ill, what I am saying is that it drove him into a hallucinogenic rage induced by, in this case, the drugs

- GP

And some people can die if they ingest even trace amount of peanuts or shellfish, should we ban those too just in case?

ThePirateHulk · 13 Sep 2011 at 07:30

krooton said:
And some people can die if they ingest even trace amount of peanuts or shellfish, should we ban those too just in case?

Surely banning shellfish and peanuts would be extremely dangerous.

If I can't have satay prawns I am guaranteed to go on a murderous rampage.

Tefal · 13 Sep 2011 at 08:37

Klo said:
To all those claiming that alcohol is more damaging that drugs, bare in mind how widespread the use of alcohol is. .

No what you have to realise is alcohol is damaging it has real negative physical effects that can be measured and will happen to anyone get a smple group of one bloke and get him drunk enough you'll see real negatives.

but for other drugs there are no lasting physical side effects, the problems with the other drugs come solely from the users (and others) actions, which is much like where a lot of alcohol dangers come from (drink driving/falling over/chocking to death on your own vomit etc) but many other illegal drugs aren't going to give you liver failure or physical addiction with a probability of death from the withdrawal symptoms like alcohol.

Cosimo · 13 Sep 2011 at 08:38

Robbo said:
There are a worrying amount of people on here that seem to think illegal drugs are illegal just 'for the lulz', like there is no actual science or reason behind it at all. Well, there is, some of you just choose to ignore it.

I hope they don't find out the hard way.

Tefal · 13 Sep 2011 at 08:39

Robbo said:
There are a worrying amount of people on here that seem to think illegal drugs are illegal just 'for the lulz', like there is no actual science or reason behind it at all. Well, there is, some of you just choose to ignore it.

Yeah robbo mean some people would think the government commissioned a scientific paper on the illegal drugs, which when their advisor came back saying a lot of them should be legalised and that they were far less dangerous than alcohol and tobacco they fired the man, and had a huge public scandal over it.

they're illegal cause keeping them illegal is a vote winner and legalising them is a vote loser (it'll get you some but not more than you'll lose) same as pretty much every law outside of tax law.

Cosimo · 13 Sep 2011 at 08:49

Milkybk said:
Had the strongest ones we could buy in Amsterdam, needless to say we underestimated how strong they would be. I spent 7 hours on my bed having the strongest drug trip I've ever had, it was amazing . The whole experience lasted for 17 hours, was quite draining though.

Now we know why they are illegal.

krooton · 13 Sep 2011 at 09:24

simulatorman said:
Now we know why they are illegal.

Because people have amazing times on them? Stupid buzzkill government

RadoX · 13 Sep 2011 at 09:38

jp_bl_68 said:
Bad trips are the only negative side effect (unless you're a numpty and try flying off the top of a tall building). That's assuming you consume the correct mushroom. There are some mushrooms that grow in the UK that look similar to shrooms but are actually highly toxic, like Death Caps.

deathcaps hardly look like lib caps do they now.