Why are there so many Turks in N. London?

Most of turkish must be some kind of political refugees , kurds and others. Turkey's political status is somewhat strange , people are oppressed and ethnic minorities haunted . Its somewhat the same when Greeks when fleeing during the junta years in Germany and Australia because of political turmoil (communists were haunted to death , often)
 
Evangelion said:
Certain people in this thread are forgetting that London's original culture was Roman, and its first language Latin.

If anything, it's the English who have changed London's culture by taking it over as the dominant ethnic group and removing all traces of its original identity.
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Where did the Romans and their Latin language come from?

We can play this game all day long.
 
Evangelion said:
Certain people in this thread are forgetting that London's original culture was Roman, and its first language Latin.

If anything, it's the English who have changed London's culture by taking it over as the dominant ethnic group and removing all traces of its original identity.
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Do you think that an occupying military force can really give any city/town/village its culture/character?

they can provide the rules to live by but the populace, the original inhabitiants and therefore the vast majority of the people whom live there will be the overwhelming driving force behind it.

good old fashioned logic ;)

the most that can be said is that they did indeed contribute to early london and, because the population of Britain has changed lots over almost 2,000 years, that successive groups, all with a right to call themselves British/English/Londoners, brought different cultural aspects to the city and the country and so changed the landscape that way.

Evangelion said:
Nobody; it originated with them.
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Wrong - it, like every language evolved from another.

Main article: History of Latin

The Duenos inscription, from the 6th century BC, is the earliest known Old Latin text.Latin is a member of the Italic languages. Its alphabet is based on the Old Italic alphabet, derived from the Greek alphabet. In the 9th or 8th century BC, the Italic languages were brought to the Italian peninsula by migrating tribes, and the dialect spoken in Latium around the River Tiber, where Roman civilization would develop, evolved into Latin.
 
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Superficial said:
Do you think that an occupying military force can really give any city/town/village its character? because if you do i think you need your head examined.

they can provide the rules to live by but the populace, the original inhabitiants and therefore the vast majority of the people whom live there will be the overwhelming driving force behind it.

good old fashioned logic ;)
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*Cough*the romans built it* cough*
 
Evangelion said:
I will give three jumbo-sized internets to anyone who can prove that London has somehow "lost its culture" due to excessive immigration.

I agree that the UK as a whole, is suffering from excessive immigration. However, I do not believe that London has lost its "culture" or "identity" as a result of this immigration.

So far, people keep making this claim without even defining the terms "culture" and "identity"; nor has anyone actually posted any evidence to prove their claim.

I call shenanigans.
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Dont take this the wrong way but you are in no way best placed to talk about this particular topic.

the only people that can reall discuss the culture of london and how it has changed are londoners that were born here and that are now at least 60 years old imho or academics that have studied the issue.

One thing that they will say is that London has changed and that that change is largely due to the influx of migrants. the problem with certain people is that they automatically regard this POV as racist.

London has changed an amazing amount due to migration but to be honest do i need a survey of londoners to tell me that? not really cos its bloomin obvious you need proof? look into the whitechapel district and its change in ethnicity then try and convince me that london has not changed.

if a culture changes then some of what was there before must be lost to make way - that really is simple logic.
 
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Iraklis F.C. said:
Most of turkish must be some kind of political refugees , kurds and others. Turkey's political status is somewhat strange , people are oppressed and ethnic minorities haunted . Its somewhat the same when Greeks when fleeing during the junta years in Germany and Australia because of political turmoil (communists were haunted to death , often)
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Get over it.
 
Tefal said:
*Cough*the romans built it* cough*
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LOL

please now tell me why the **** that matters?

it was a place in England and the people were English - the people make the city this is obvious.:p

what do you think - the comparatively tiny number of roman militia/government officials possesed such a strong culture that our own disappeared?

think it through.

EDIT: both you and Evangelion are totally wrong the Roman London ceased to be a long time before the current one was founded it seems.

Early London

the first major settlement was founded by the Romans in AD 43 as Londinium, following the Roman conquest of Britain.[citation needed] This Londinium lasted for just seventeen years.

Around 61, the Iceni tribe led by Queen Boudica stormed this first London, burning it to the ground.[26] The next, heavily-planned incarnation of the city prospered and superseded Colchester as the capital of the Roman province of Britannia in 100. At its height in the 2nd century, Roman London had a population of around 60,000.

The city started a slow decline in the 3rd century because of trouble in the Roman Empire, and by the 5th century the city was largely abandoned.[27]

By the 600s, the Anglo-Saxons had created a new settlement called Lundenwic approximately 1,000 yards (0.9 km) upstream from the old Roman city,
 
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Millwall.FC said:
I would say arround 5-10% (estimate) would be from scotland, wales and n.ireland and so that knocks the percentage down even more, all im getting at is london is losing its identity.
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lmao, I love this guy. And his percentages :D They're completely taken out of his arse :D

Well, he is from Millwall.
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
no by fascists
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By fascist ghosts?




Should have called


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Superficial said:
Dont take this the wrong way but you are in no way best placed to talk about this particular topic.

the only people that can reall discuss the culture of london and how it has changed are londoners that were born here and that are now at least 60 years old imho or academics that have studied the issue.

One thing that they will say is that London has changed and that that change is largely due to the influx of migrants. the problem with certain people is that they automatically regard this POV as racist.

London has changed an amazing amount due to migration but to be honest do i need a survey of londoners to tell me that? not really cos its bloomin obvious you need proof? look into the whitechapel district and its change in ethnicity then try and convince me that london has not changed.

if a culture changes then some of what was there before must be lost to make way - that really is simple logic.
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If someone new joins my group of friends and brings something new or different - a passion for thai food rather than our usual chip shop fare for example - and we all start eating thai food too, does that mean we have 'lost' our old culture?

Why is changing culture bad?
 
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