Why can't I play my old games?

Guys I apologise for the stuff I wrote last night. I was really drunk and angry.

Was it ever established whether it is a compatibility issue or not?

It's just annoying to be honest as my PS3 broke a couple of weeks ago. That might explain some of that anger last night :D
 
Barks said:
Guys I apologise for the stuff I wrote last night. I was really drunk and angry.

Was it ever established whether it is a compatibility issue or not?

It's just annoying to be honest as my PS3 broke a couple of weeks ago. That might explain some of that anger last night :D
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Your Sony broke and you returned your PS4. Sounds like a blessing in disguise. Time to upgrade to the Xbone or WiiU.
 
Barks said:
Guys I apologise for the stuff I wrote last night. I was really drunk and angry.

Was it ever established whether it is a compatibility issue or not?

It's just annoying to be honest as my PS3 broke a couple of weeks ago. That might explain some of that anger last night :D
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The PS4 is an entirely different architecture to the PS3, it cannot play PS3 games using the internals it has. The only way would be to include a second set of hardware and bump the price, or software emulate it which gets mixed results, see the 360s efforts.

The PS2 did BC because it had the PS1 chip in it. The PS3 shoe horned PS2 BC in at massive cost and was rapidly dropped. Companies have realised that BC is basically a pointless exercise that offers nothing but increases cost. If you own a PS3 game, you already own a PS3.

The PS4 hardware is as different to the PS3s as a Spanish dictionary is to Ukrainian sign language.
 
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The Running Man said:
I really don't think it's as simple as you make it sound. My thought process is that Sony realised they could make more profit by redistributing the same content via PSN download - they were unable to do this previously on their consoles as PSN wasn't around yet.

Like micro-transactions in GT6 do they give us 7 million credits for £40 because they love us and couldn't have made it easier to earn credits in game or because PSN opened up this avenue and they wanted to cash in big time in the profitability stakes?
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I'm not saying it's simple at all, quite the opposite; you're the one who insists that the lack of BC is solely down to wanting to re-sell the same games to people all over again, when it's very clearly more complex than that. Don't get me wrong, it's no doubt an influential factor (because as I said, they're a business concerned with making a profit), but it's just one reason among many and hardly likely to be the key reason given that Sony aren't the only ones who benefit anyway. Backwards compatibility isn't a worthy selling point if it drives the cost of the console up and takes development resources away from more important things.

Again, the cost of just developing the hardware and software required to enable backwards compatibility is prohibitive, hence why it was dropped from the PS3 so quickly.

The GT6 comparison doesn't make any sense, it's not the same scenario at all, and doesn't really have a whole lot to do with SCE either; blame Polyphony Digital for that if you must.
 
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They released plenty of there own HD games on the ps3.
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Sony-owned studios did, yes, but there are quite a few of them so that's not really a surprise. Most of the ones I can think of were released for the Vita too.

A lot of the HD Collections on the PS3 were excellent, so I see nothing wrong with them doing a similar thing again as long as there's enough improvement.
 
Can't believe anyone would buy a console for £350 or whatever and expect to be able to play games from other formats without checking first.
 
All you people in this thread that are saying you bought a PS4 expecting it to play old PS3 games on it are idiots. The lack of backwards compatibility was stated at the announcement of PS4, if you didn't bother to look into this before buying the machine then all fool you.

Did you guys all attempt to stick your snes games into a nintendo 64? did your Playstations break when you put your mega drive games into the CD drives? Its called next gen, its called Playstation 4, not playstation 3 dot 4.
 
Thing is, how much does a ps3 slim cost? 150 quid? Well 20% of that is tax, so about 135. The BD laser is about 30 quid. The included DS3 pad, 15 quid. The HDD 30 quid. The power supply, case, usb ports etc add up too.

At the end your left with a chipset that doesn't cost too much at all when you consider it can utilise the PSU, BD DVD, HDD already part of the PS4.

Hell given a choice would you rather spend 60 quid on some skanky eye hardware that you ain't gonna use or spend 50 to 60 quid to be able to put your PS3 to pasture and play all your old/ existing games but now with post processing fxaa etc?

It's an absolute no brainer.
 
The Running Man said:
Hell given a choice would you rather spend 60 quid on some skanky eye hardware that you ain't gonna use or spend 50 to 60 quid to be able to put your PS3 to pasture and play all your old/ existing games but now with post processing fxaa etc?

It's an absolute no brainer.
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Wow you actually think that the need to have the PS3 CPU and GPU sub-system would infer that the PS4 APU couldnt actually be easily involved in running PS3 games

You are right though - definitely makes sense not to include BC at all if its gonna add nearly 20% to the price...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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if people didn't want BC why would Sony have bought and be offering gaikai streaming of games? The cost to buy a couple of games again and potential streaming subscription service AND the Internet cost to download and run this would make the additional cost of BC hardware on the PS4 look like a bargain.

Except with hw you have infinite chance to play the old games online and offline. With no lag or reliance upon the game being released to gaikai
 
The Running Man said:
if people didn't want BC why would Sony have bought and be offering gaikai streaming of games? The cost to buy a couple of games again and potential streaming subscription service AND the Internet cost to download and run this would make the additional cost of BC hardware on the PS4 look like a bargain.

Except with hw you have infinite chance to play the old games online and offline. With no lag or reliance upon the game being released to gaikai
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Because Gaikai is going to be a paid service one way or the other, and tbh they are underutilising the service if thats all theyll be using it for. People that want BC can then pay for it, but I still think it will be the minority that do. BC was always a 'nice to have' feature, but it was rarely used. Honestly thats the crux of the argument...

What internet cost does Gaikai bring beyond just streaming a 1080p picture?

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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