Why do people que, instead of using both lanes..

[InvaderGIR]

My opinion is that if the traffic is flowing then yeah great use it every time if you want to go faster than the cars you are overtaking. If the traffic is totally solid then don't be a **** and go right to the very end like a lot of people do and merge as soon as you realise. This both prevents people blocking up the round-a-bout and too stops everyone thinking you're an utter ****.

Surely if people weren't so retarded and used both lanes then the whole problem would be solved, moving off and merging as opposed to just moving off doesn't make much if any different, especially if you have one car merging at a time, the same number of cars get through.

The people that are using the lane correctly are being called queue jumpers, which whilst may be partly true really doesn't help the situation. If you use the lane correctly then you still get called a queue jumper simply because nobody else is using it correctly and therefore nobody lets anyone in.

The ignorance and stupidity of British drivers is amazing it really is.

 

[Pigeon]

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Did anyone else thing look at this piece of Scaletric where the tracks get put together ?!

I personally hate queue jumpers where there is a queue, but there should not be a queue anyway thanks to merge in turn. Maybe what they should do is put up more merge in turn signs to tell people what to do. In my experience you rarely see a sign telling you to do this.

When I see a roadworks lane restriction sign I think I want to be in the correct lane in good time, I should already be in the left lane if I am not overtaking. Should I then pull out if there is a queue? If I am in the right lane then it makes sense to carry one past the queue till the traffic is meant to merge, it is the same as joining a motorway. You know where the line stops and tells you to merge in, and then you pick your gap in the traffic.

 

[Pete19s]

There's an underground carpark in norwich (chapelfield, for those that know the area), and there is 2 gates that allow entry, yet people consistantly only use one.

Theres 3 actaully you must be one of the failing people who I get in before by taking the furthest gate

I'll stop sticking to the left lane as soon as morons stop blocking people from merging for "jumping the queue"

This became a real problem around here with people straddling lanes or even weaving out to the right to stop cars from getting past.

What you need good sir is a big Mercedes van, works wonders because its quicker than people expect and also because I dont have to pay for any damage it may recieve. The junction on the mulbarton turn is always a nightmare due to the above type of people as is the one just up the road by the hotel come to think of it.

 

[lordrobs]

The junction on the mulbarton turn is always a nightmare due to the above type of people as is the one just up the road by the hotel come to think of it.

Yeah a merge in turn just after a set of traffic lights almost always becomes a bit of a traffic light grand prix. The one near the hotel is especially bad because it requires a bit of give and take from both sides as the curb on the left forces cars on that side over to the right whilst the right lane merges. The result being that those doing a mad dash down the outside suddenly find that the car on the left weaves out (to avoid the curb).

Very nearly had a 4x4 moulded into my drivers side because of that

EDIT- you mentioning that junction got me thinking... Coming from Mulbarton way towards Tesco there is a wide junction with no markings. People form 2 lanes there (so they don't block the cars turning left) and in 2 years of using that junction almost daily I've only ever had a couple of occasions with people blocking or not merging in turn. Maybe those that say the roads have too many markings and if we are left to our own devices more we drive in a safer manner are on to something?

 

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

Who cares what the fools in the queue think? You're never going to have to explain yourself to them. Just blast on up right to the end and wait till some nice chap lets you in, it doesnt take too long, and saves a few minutes in places.

Not your fault they like sitting in a queue.

 

[Glaucus]

had the unpleasent fortune of going there today and guess what the same. But even worse than that. It was like a big car park. People parking in the middle of a roundabout and blocking other entrences and exists where there is no need. Stopping on *** roundabout when it's liek that is fine. But think head. Leave 10ft so other cars can go through.

Police should be given the power to give £60 on the spot fines for this, Not only wiould they make millions every day to balance there books. idiots would learn how to drive properly on roundabouts and dual lane roads.

 

[Pug]

another huuuuuge pet peeve of mine is people with no understanding of lanes on motorways. They'll sit in the outside lane, for no reason, then (sometimes) move into the middle line when you come up behind them instead of going all the wa y over to the inside lane and staying there (all the while the inside lane is empty).

I'm very happy to undertake nowadays (when i say undertake, if it doesnt involve me changing lanes to undertake, i stay in the lane, at my constant speed, and pass them on the left) and let them get on with it

 

[Malt_Vinegar]

The only way to solve this, put on TV ads. Divert all the anti-speeding advert money to Merge in turn and Motorway Lane Dicipline adverts!!

 

[Hxc]

Theres 3 actaully you must be one of the failing people who I get in before by taking the furthest gate

Shh. I meant 3

 

[jaybee]

The simple problem has already been highlighted, users of the left lane don't giveway and think they have right of way which causes the system to be flawed. The sooner people realise people are not pushing in and simply driving in a perfectly acceptable manner the better.

 

[Trifid]

another huuuuuge pet peeve of mine is people with no understanding of lanes on motorways. They'll sit in the outside lane, for no reason, then (sometimes) move into the middle line when you come up behind them instead of going all the wa y over to the inside lane and staying there (all the while the inside lane is empty).

Surely if the inside lane is empty you should already be in it.

 

[Pug]

Surely if the inside lane is empty you should already be in it.

crap answer, which fails at trying to be a smart ass

If i'm in the inside lane, and someone is in the outside lane to get past them i either do as i said above, and just keep on passing them on the left (undertaking, which always feels a little bit dirty) or i have to pull out behind them and wait for them to pull over to the left, which even if they do is only to the middle lane then, with an empty carriageway.

Recently tho, since i've been doing upwards of 50k miles a year, i tend to just keep in my lane and "undertake"

 

[Lum]

There's no law against undertaking, the only thing they can get you on is due care and attention, careless reckless etc. it'll be very hard to make that stick if you are just staying in your lane.

I was talking to a copper a few years back who was having a moan about this as a court had ruled that since the undertaker moved left in good time (4 seconds in advance), undertook at the speed limit and didn't move back out (having finally reached the HGV) until he was 3 seconds in front of the MLM that the overtake was perfectly fine and the copper should have pulled the MLM rather than the undertaker, he did accept my point that clearly the MLM was the one oblivious to his surroundings though as he'd either not checked his mirror once in the last 15 minutes or was being terribly inconsiderate to other road users.

 

[Duke]

Coming back from Swindon today there was someone straddling two lanes that merge into one about 1/4 mile down the road

 

[Bigsy]

Lived in patchway for 3 1/2 years right by this bit of road and I used to love it tbh....not in my CTR but in my otherhalfs banged up 306 which would be nice to get written off tbh.

Used to come flying down the right hand lane everyday past everyone, had loads of people go to the point of crossing lanes to try and block me! Even clipped wing mirrors with a white van man.

I remember I passed one stupid woman and saw her in my mirror accelerate back up my inside so I couldn't merge.... we basically went toe to toe till the 'chicane' which resulted in her having to mount the curb at quite a pace.

It's a lot less fun now I have a bike but I do take the opportunity to do the weekly asda shop in the 306.

 

[wez130]

No-one understands the concept of "merge in turn". It's even worse when there's a roadworks with a lane closure a few miles ahead, such as the current one on the M50.

Basically when you're approaching a lane closure, stay in your bloody lane and merge at the point that the designer of the roadworks intended you to merge, the one that they have marked out with traffic cones. This will reduce the overall length of the queue by up to 50% and thus halve the risk of the queue blocking the previous junction.

Personally I wish that instead of laying out the roadworks like this:

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... should help get the point across. Failing that you could put cones down the centre line for 2 miles before the junction.

Ever thought about being Transport minister?

So simple but that's genius

 

[Saytan]

as an ex patchway boy i know exactly what you mean - they seem particularly bad there. maybe it's the same bristol drivers who dont use the part time bus lane on gloucester road when it's not a bus lane?

 

[Amleto]

ah yeah, nobody ever reads bus lane 'opening hours' so nobody ever drives in them when it's fine to do so.

 

[Hatter The Mad]

I know how to merge, but it was never covered in my practical driving test or lessons. I assume its in the theory?

Perhaps that's the problem, maybe it should be taught from day one.

Isn't covered in practical, isn't covered in theory (I'm one of the guys who memorises the theory questions before taking the test )

 

[Lum]

ah yeah, nobody ever reads bus lane 'opening hours' so nobody ever drives in them when it's fine to do so.

And long may that continue! Just been to the RGH in Newport and saved an awful lot of time by not queueing in the other lane when there's an empty bus lane that's only active 7-10, 3:30-6:30.

Lets not forget people who think the speed limit for dual carriageways is 60 (and 50 for an SC) Just overtook a whole bunch of them on the way down because they all slowed down to < 60 due to a copper parked up in a layby.