Why have we jumped to 4K?
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Soldato
I made a similar point about gaming and 4k over in the graphics card forum. Games being designed for 4k is holding back what game developers could be doing graphically if they were targeting 1080p or 1440p. A lot of GPU or console power is being wasted on a resolution increase that brings little perceptible visual improvement.
Edit: Confession - I'm slightly short sighted and don't usually wear my glasses for watching screens.
Edit: Confession - I'm slightly short sighted and don't usually wear my glasses for watching screens.
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My own eyes… already won… what’s next?
Trolls gotta give up when they’re noticed…
I have 20/10 vision and sit 5m from my screen… I can tell the difference in 4 bitrate… so someone is full of ****… and I know it’s not me
From my butt on things I have no clue about… Eurgh… childish reply much? Grow up..
At no point have you made any non-canned reply to a post I. This thread that demonstrates your own opinion… only a failure of comprehension and demonstration that your not in the target demongraphic that you wish you were.
You have become jaded and poor… either you cannot notice the difference and cannot find a good quality optician to give you the right glasses… or your ability to process data has gone beyond what you wish you admit and you prefer to push the issue onto everyone who isn’t you… maybe you simply can’t afford a good quality OLED 4k display, not everyone can… it’s ok, you just got to admit it to yourself.
You’re hear on this forum, actively creating unnecessary drama as a way to validate what you can’t admit to yourself.
It’s understandable, it’s also manageable… but attacking others in the process pushes your situation into unsociable. Get a grip man, seriously…
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And why should future focused developers limit themselves to your personal limitations? Nope… it’s fiscal death, beyond anything else…
Most newer games on consoles give you the option to target resolution or performance.
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Not just my limitations. This is for 20:20 vision. My limitations mean I have to sit closer, go bigger, or wear my glasses to see the benefit. But there are a lot of people that will own and use higher resolution screens than they need to
For a start you are highly narcissistic, you project what you are onto me because you need to validate yourself in light of knowing you may come off as inferior if you conform to giving evidence which applies to a normal debate or discussion where evidence would be a good way for all involved to gain specific knowledge in the face of argumentation or questions.
I am not attacking you, this is a turning point if you want it to be, if you are in control of yourself, which narcissistic people normally are not, they try to control others rather.
You are not only basically saying "Because I said so" you are also placing yourself above qualified practicioners of eye sight but also most likely people who you look down upon who have far more knowledge than you do too.
Everything inbetween written as some kind of psuedo-intellectual analysis on my behavior is merely you not wanting to come off as too arrogant, but end up being completely arrogant as you also lack self awareness which is also a problem with narcissistic people.
If you would like more information on this issue, I can give you detailed and backed studies on such a thing.
At this point, I do care about you or I would not be accurately displaying what is really going on, I also care for others to gain the correct information.
For what it is worth in light of this subject, I have given evidence to back all of my claims and one or two have added some more detail to that too.
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Not just my limitations. This is for 20:20 vision. My limitations mean I have to sit closer, go bigger, or wear my glasses to see the benefit. But there are a lot of people that will own and use higher resolution screens than they need to
Such ******** requires some form of scientific justification. It is clearly subjective and not objective… I’ve been 5m (17ish ft) from my 77” OLED since 2018
By your graph I shouldn’t be able to notice any benefit beyond 720p! That’s hilarious!!! I can tell the bitrate difference in 4 streams without even trying. I am keen to jump on the 97” 8k panel when it comes out… for my own enjoyment… I rarely host anyone beyond my family or closest friends, the gains are only for my own enjoyment.
I doubt even the trolling OP would agree with that… even with a 2mbit 720p YouTube stream that’s irrelevant in the intent of this conversation.
That graph is a complete joke and not related to the direct experience of anyone who doesn’t need glasses, it’s truly a pathetic scale and completely fictional.
The only way I could try to justify that graph, as it’s so bad… is to say it’s a way to calculate if someone can identify a specific individual pixel from that distance… as in, identify it specifically unique on a static image from its neighbour pixel… beyond that… it’s crazy to assert those figures, not real world viewing experience
That graph is a little different to the one I posted but ends up being close if not the same.
The website is here: https://carltonbale.com/
He seems competent in his ability to create a website that is approachable which means he would be good at navigating incoming trends; smart people who have great fluid intelligence adapt well to situations.
Clearly shown here by the way he has progressively changed his website.
But also he has a very broad range of interests with a lot of detail in each which would suggest a person with again a capability of storing a lot of information accurately with good working memory.
His resume also backs this up.
https://carltonbale.com/about-me/resume/
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We project who we are onto others… maybe soon you’ll realise you are the narcissist here and do something about it… you don’t even try to listen to anyone who counters your option that’s used as a way to validate the failures you can’t accept about your own deterioration.
This has gone on for many posts now, I’m the first to challenge your own opinion of yourself… so now I’m your target… it’s your only defence mechanism…
But yes… feel free to keep changing the subject away from the point you actively created…
If that was the case my friend, you have totally proven what I typed correct...
"We project who we are onto others"
It is funny how that came to be when I was was the one delivering the point that you were projecting.
So you now know you are fully everything you called me?
I did say you have no self awareness, well done in also evidencing this yourself.
I did say you could take this point as a turning point.. you fell onto your own sword.
You may be so far gone or incapable of actually intellectually seeing this.
"We project who we are onto others"
It is funny how that came to be when I was was the one delivering the point that you were projecting.
So you now know you are fully everything you called me?
I did say you have no self awareness, well done in also evidencing this yourself.
I did say you could take this point as a turning point.. you fell onto your own sword.
You may be so far gone or incapable of actually intellectually seeing this.
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I have currently a Dell S2716DG (27" 1440p 144Hz) alongside a Philips 436M6 (43" 2160p 60Hz) both are used at varying distances, usually about arms length for the Dell, and somewhere around 60cm through to ~3m for the Philips for gaming and movies. I also have a variety of monitors including Samsung PLS 1440p, various Dell IPS including UW, etc. etc.
Quite frankly few posts in this thread actually correspond with the reality of using that setup.
Quite frankly few posts in this thread actually correspond with the reality of using that setup.
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You’re the one trying to convince me and many others that our own eyes are lying to us… and that of everyone else.
You’re trying to subjugate visible evidence into nothing more than hyperbole because your eyes don’t agree & and validating your hypothesis with with nothing but attacks and no scientific data.
The few attempts you used to validate your opinion were using YouTube data streams as a key indicator… thinks where 4k streams have long been know to be worse than 1080p content due to the variations in bandwidth and storage management they have been public and open about for many years.
So continue to validate your personal failures as you wish… but stop attacking others for being in a different position from you. It’s really pathetic.
You’re trying to subjugate visible evidence into nothing more than hyperbole because your eyes don’t agree & and validating your hypothesis with with nothing but attacks and no scientific data.
The few attempts you used to validate your opinion were using YouTube data streams as a key indicator… thinks where 4k streams have long been know to be worse than 1080p content due to the variations in bandwidth and storage management they have been public and open about for many years.
So continue to validate your personal failures as you wish… but stop attacking others for being in a different position from you. It’s really pathetic.
Backed facts disagree, my own experience was merely an opener.
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Balance, reality and perspective, as well as understanding content management delivery would be a fair starting point… OP is just trying to find external validation for buying a 70” entry level TV instead of a 55” OLED for the same budget because it’s all he could do… then attacking anyone who doesn’t validate his needs… really pathetic tbh
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My eyes mean more to me than your bull****, simple as that…
I have a 43" Plasma but you still keep projecting and trying to prove me to others as something I am not.
Edited put my numbers back to front.
What is my BS?
Or is that everyone else's BS too as it is you vs a number of sources here not just me.
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Soooo… you ignored everyone who disagreed with you?
Your specific opinion is the minority… even in your own thread, targeting support for your idea…
How does one talk to someone who has literally gone public stating they can’t see the information that’s right in front of their face that everyone else can?
Your thread is literally created from the idea that others can see what you can’t… it’s the basic premise and trying to validate you as you are now… yet typical cognitive bias led to to regularly reply to informative posts by repeating yourself instead of actually noticing it.
Maybe I’m the only one who’s on the verge of helping you pay more attention to the world around you… but of course, you’ll only ever read this as a narcissistic intent… I couldn’t simply be surprised and working for you to take note… like I said, we see others as we are, and you labelled me without exploring my intent… so what does that say about you?
It’s ok to notice and accept your own personal limits… it’s not a fun part of life, but it’s real… how have I actively tried to hurt you other than get your attention to call you on your bull****? I don’t have to sugar coat it for your sensibilities… those who did try that, were clearly and regularly ignored…