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Why have we jumped to 4K?
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The world around me does not equate to the truth... I don't, that is why I have backed facts, not just me... a sheep can be a sheep and led to a field full of beauty or the slaughter. Money involved? You can gather there is some slaughtering going on, the animal will otherwise take too much from them, the animal is a threat to their empire and existence.
One thing you are hell bent on for sure though is being correct even in light of all intellectual capability here, evidence or none.
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Again clearly avoiding the point at hand, I didn’t expect much more. The world around me, the majority of people in this thread, the majority of technology adopters with buying power… the basic science… all disagree with you and the hilariously distance/resolution scale diagram that was posted out of context. I tried to balance it with relevant information, but as expected… you ignored the information because it didn’t agree with you. Just like all other narcissistic people…
At least I attempted to offered a balanced perspective and development of information… but you’re not capable of that, are you?
Best of luck to you
There is only you arguing so hard and trying to paint me as something I am not and you have failed miserably, you won't stop because you have a weak ego, so you must continue.
In the end you only came here for selfish desire, not curiosity, not to have any type of intelligent discussion.
Do you think people automatically submit when they know they are not incorrect?
Difference here is you tout money whilst I tout facts, everything is just a display of ego from you, you are trying to paint me as below you...
Then because I used an accurate analysis on you, you think you can do the same but you have no self control or knowledge of what you speak of, or ability to reason or heed facts, you only care about yourself and your own eyes.
Money =/= intellect. Only power.
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0 sum game it is… best of luck to you… maybe you’ll find that first generation 720p Kuro some day
There you had the last say, or did you?
Soldato
Can I mention how great my plasma was when watching movies due to having full panel res great motion, or will the 4k OLED guys come after me 
(yes I do have an OLED)
(yes I do have an OLED)
@Tired9 @ThatsWhatSheSaid can you both please put each other on ignore? Using RTM and then baiting each other after will lead to some holidays for you both if the bickering like this continues.
Soldato
It's not entirely subjective. There are limitations of human physiology. I know Wikipedia is sometimes frowned on but in this case is a decent starting point. You can go look up the references.
Of course some people have better than 20:20 vision. I have some glasses that correct my vision to better than 20:20 from when I used to work on the railways but I wouldn't generally choose to use them for TV watching.
From here if you're interested: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimum_HDTV_viewing_distance#
Edit: I do have a 4k TV but it's a 40" unit and as such you've got to be sitting pretty damn close to see the benefit. Why did I buy 4k? At the time there would simply have been no significant financial incentive to buying a new 1080p or lower set. It has things like HDR which matter far more, and there was simply no way the missus was going to agree to anything much bigger.
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Which was why I went from a 42” Panasonic plasma to a OLED C9, there was no way I was dealing with crappy backlight issues.Can I mention how great my plasma was when watching movies due to having full panel res great motion, or will the 4k OLED guys come after me
The colour reproduction depends on the resolution because the large pixels on a 1080p screen there are black lines which interfere with the active dots and distorts the colour quality.
Also, 1080p is terrible. As you can see the general visual perception of a Full HD and Ultra HD 4K screens:
Confused about HiDPI and Retina display? ― Understanding pixel density in the age of 4K | EIZO (eizoglobal.com)
Absolute political nonsense. Such people should be taken from their "diplomas".
Both of those images are zoomed right in.. and my eye sight blurs to crap at that distance. 20cm from my face starts to strain my eyes.
They zoomed in to show a difference, not from any kind of normal distance and no the black lines don't do anything to colour.
I like how above and that other user use their facts with no backing and try to bring down people who are qualified in such matters.
Hilarious to see.
They zoomed in to show a difference, not from any kind of normal distance and no the black lines don't do anything to colour.
I like how above and that other user use their facts with no backing and try to bring down people who are qualified in such matters.
Hilarious to see.
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It is of course zoomed in to more easily show the difference, but it's fairly representative of the real world difference. When I tried a 27" 1080p monitor after being used to 4K it looked remarkably blurry and difficult to focus on text. I guess we all must be imagining it though and you are right.
Soldato
If you have to zoom in then no, it doesnt really tell you much at all.
No, we all know you better than that.
27" is too big for a 1080p display. So no surprise there.
No, we all know you better than that.
27" is too big for a 1080p display. So no surprise there.
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There's collelation of ppi, viewing distance, usage,.and eye sight.
When I went from 24" 1920x1200 to 24" 1920x10 monitor I noticed the larger pixels. It's not much but enough to see jaggies on text, icons and also in games..I typically try not to use AA if possible as drops FPS, depends on the game, so jaggies were more noticeable. I'm now using 27" 2560x1440 that has high ppi so I don't really need as at all.
Surely the bitrate would also make a huge difference (most likely even far more of a difference then resolution)Not just my limitations. This is for 20:20 vision. My limitations mean I have to sit closer, go bigger, or wear my glasses to see the benefit. But there are a lot of people that will own and use higher resolution screens than they need to
As watching a low bitrate 1080p or 4k youtube clip is 100% different to watching a high bitrate 1080p or 4k Blu-ray disc from the same distance on a 65 inch screen
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font smoothing impact enabled by the higher resolution makes it less tiring, for work.
If you are not into box-office films or derivative netflix sereies' absence of content at HDR(4k,1080) is the main reason I haven't engaged,
if we were getting cycling/olympics/bbc type documentaries in that format then would be of more interest;
- as already remarked, 1080p/hdr feed at a higher bitrate, instead of 4K/hdr would be acceptable too.
If you are not into box-office films or derivative netflix sereies' absence of content at HDR(4k,1080) is the main reason I haven't engaged,
if we were getting cycling/olympics/bbc type documentaries in that format then would be of more interest;
- as already remarked, 1080p/hdr feed at a higher bitrate, instead of 4K/hdr would be acceptable too.
Soldato
The colour reproduction depends on the resolution because the large pixels on a 1080p screen there are black lines which interfere with the active dots and distorts the colour quality.
Also, 1080p is terrible. As you can see the general visual perception of a Full HD and Ultra HD 4K screens:
Confused about HiDPI and Retina display? ― Understanding pixel density in the age of 4K | EIZO (eizoglobal.com)
Absolute political nonsense. Such people should be taken from their "diplomas".
Just going to make a point. The following is a macro-photo of a random icon on my Dell 2407WFP A04 1920x1200 (fairly close to 1080p) 24" monitor, taken with a smartphone.
Blown up...
Still quite a bit larger than actual size (for me when displayed on the same screen)
A bit bigger than than actual size
These are all the same image, just scaled. I think what might bother you is pixel density, and your distance from it - not that it's 1080p...
And what is that supposed 1080p shot you're showing? The printed on fabric version?
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All I can say is we are an old couple and we had a Samsung Full HD 43" that we mainly played 1080 content on (or less).
This time last year because we stayed in so much, I talked her into a 4K 43" Hisense for mostly 1080 content (or less) and we were both amazed at the difference in quality.
Put something like the Green Planet on my Full HD in the other room and compare it to the 4K and the difference is massive even with our old eyes.
This time last year because we stayed in so much, I talked her into a 4K 43" Hisense for mostly 1080 content (or less) and we were both amazed at the difference in quality.
Put something like the Green Planet on my Full HD in the other room and compare it to the 4K and the difference is massive even with our old eyes.