Why is slavery such a bad thing? (I don't mean racial, just people having a slave)

dowie said:
Yup...

Tis true to an extent - varies depending on role etc...
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well...no. to quote wiki

Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold, and are forced to work.[1] Slaves can be held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase or birth, and deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to demand compensation. Historically the institution was called "slavery" and was accepted by societies; in more recent times slavery is not acceptable, but conditions tantamount to slavery although not called such continue, with debt bondage, indentured servitude, serfdom, domestic servants kept in captivity, adoption in which children are effectively forced to work as slaves, child soldiers, and forced marriage
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all of which does not apply even in a rubbish office job.


just call it prolonged work experience or national service, which is essentially what you are suggesting.
 
BunnyKillBot said:
There is a valid facet of slavery, which is debt slavery, whereby a person is interred into service of one they owe a debt, until such time as that debt is paid. The system benefits both parties, the trouble is, such system are greatly open to profound corruption. What of the living costs to keep the slave alive? I may start charging a fee for a bed to sleep on, food, drink, perhaps luxurious, and suddenly debt is accrued upon debt. Then, since i control the system, it becomes lesuirly simply to ensure my debt slave never leaves. I can charge for outlandish fees, I can use a legal framework to conjure costs out of thing air.
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Strictly speaking, that's indentured servitude rather than slavery. It's been used in the past and it was as profoundly corrupt as you describe. almost all of the time.
 
robgmun said:
It gets **** done...i mean look at the Pyramids!
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That's a common misconception, the pyramids in Egypt weren't built by slaves.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/pyramids/pyramids.html#who


I think OP is a retard for thinking that taking somebody's basic human rights to benefit others is a good idea.

EDIT: OK, read the thread, I take it back, OP is not a tard because of the above, he is a moron because he does not understand the concept of slavery.
 
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BunnyKillBot said:
There is a valid facet of slavery, which is debt slavery, whereby a person is interred into service of one they owe a debt, until such time as that debt is paid. The system benefits both parties, the trouble is, such system are greatly open to profound corruption. What of the living costs to keep the slave alive? I may start charging a fee for a bed to sleep on, food, drink, perhaps luxurious, and suddenly debt is accrued upon debt. Then, since i control the system, it becomes lesuirly simply to ensure my debt slave never leaves. I can charge for outlandish fees, I can use a legal framework to conjure costs out of thing air.

We are all already slaves
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Valid? They abolished it in Greece thousands of years ago. Even then they realised it was ********.
 
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dowie said:
Yup...

Tis true to an extent - varies depending on role etc...
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Except you're FREE to leave your employment.
For the record the OPs suggestion it quite distressing, to think educated people might actually think something like this is a good idea. People who have been made aware of the effects of slavery though history lessons taught.

So narrow minded.

It's getting to the point where I'm starting to think twice about coming to these forums.

Pity after so many years. I find myself drawn towards these ridiculous debates.
 
Nemesis379 said:
What are butlers, if anything they are slaves.
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I'm pretty sure they're starting to actually implement a system where after x amount of time of you not getting a job whilst on JSA you have to work in a large supermarket on unpaid work experience, to continue to get your JSA.

Whilst I personally think it's an incredible idea to get the lazy benefit claimers off their behinds, it could arguably be seen as some form of Slavery, as one could argue it is forced labour, and also not far from what the OP suggested.

I guess if we look at Stalin's rule of Russia as well. The industrial boom, was basically forced labour/slavery as well. Whilst in no way do I think that the atrocities he committed were humane or justified, you cannot deny the sheer amount of productivity that was created out of it. Stalin managed to effectively have the entire British Industrial Revolution, in 10 years for Russia due to what he did with labour. Is it morally and ethically correct. Absolutely not. Was it incredibly productive. Yes.

I guess I should also point out that slavery happens all over the world still - including in Britain, there are often documentaries or even just your 'customs control' tv program, that frequently show conditions where people are basically working in slave labour conditions.

Slavery itself has far too many moral and social hazards. For one you shouldn't ever have ownership over another person - God knows how many people would abuse their slaves, and history teaches us that whilst some slaves were treated well, others were treated horrifically, as they basically had no access to the justice system, so people could get away with it.... What's more as they were the 'lowest' of society, people didn't really care that they were treated so harshly....

I'm not going to deny that it's not effective. Because it can be. However, the human rights infringements, and the issues created morally surrounding this are atrocious.

kd
 
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