Why is slavery such a bad thing? (I don't mean racial, just people having a slave)

Mr Krugga · 8 Dec 2011 at 01:03

King Damager said:
I'm pretty sure they're starting to actually implement a system where after x amount of time of you not getting a job whilst on JSA you have to work in a large supermarket on unpaid work experience, to continue to get your JSA.

Whilst I personally think it's an incredible idea to get the lazy benefit claimers off their behinds, it could arguably be seen as some form of Slavery, as one could argue it is forced labour, and also not far from what the OP suggested.

I guess if we look at Stalin's rule of Russia as well. The industrial boom, was basically forced labour/slavery as well. Whilst in no way do I think that the atrocities he committed were humane or justified, you cannot deny the sheer amount of productivity that was created out of it. Stalin managed to effectively have the entire British Industrial Revolution, in 10 years for Russia due to what he did with labour. Is it morally and ethically correct. Absolutely not. Was it incredibly productive. Yes.

I guess I should also point out that slavery happens all over the world still - including in Britain, there are often documentaries or even just your 'customs control' tv program, that frequently show conditions where people are basically working in slave labour conditions.

Slavery itself has far too many moral and social hazards. For one you shouldn't ever have ownership over another person - God knows how many people would abuse their slaves, and history teaches us that whilst some slaves were treated well, others were treated horrifically, as they basically had no access to the justice system, so people could get away with it.... What's more as they were the 'lowest' of society, people didn't really care that they were treated so harshly....

I'm not going to deny that it's not effective. Because it can be. However, the human rights infringements, and the issues created morally surrounding this are atrocious.

kd

Stalinism was incredibly inefficient on the whole, I can't believe you brought it up as an example. The Holodomor was largely an effect of Stalin's approach to communist reforms.

Mr Krugga · 8 Dec 2011 at 01:04

bhavv said:
Nothing about Vram either, so it cant be harmony

I think it's a new kind of troll, a SUPERTROLL one might say.

Is such a thing possible?

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King Damager · 8 Dec 2011 at 01:13

Mr Krugga said:
Stalinism was incredibly inefficient on the whole, I can't believe you brought it up as an example. The Holodomor was largely an effect of Stalin's approach to communist reforms.

Meh, it's been a while since I've looked at Stalin, and it is passed one. I'm not saying it was efficient. But a lot was achieved.

kd

bhavv · 8 Dec 2011 at 01:20

Mr Krugga said:
I think it's a new kind of troll, a SUPERTROLL one might say.

Is such a thing possible?

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Maybe. But if there was Im sure that I could still outtroll it

Unless it amuses me, as Britboy and Kwerk did / do.

.... Where did kwerk go?

Mr Krugga · 8 Dec 2011 at 01:20

King Damager said:
Meh, it's been a while since I've looked at Stalin, and is passed one. I'm not saying it was efficient. But a lot was achieved.

kd

A lot more was skipped in the process which was a cause for real long-term problems later in the history.

bhavv · 8 Dec 2011 at 01:23

In India they still keep slaves in the wealthier rural families.

The slaves are considered to be of the lowest caste system and do all of the housework and cooking for just 2 meals a day.

But at least they advanced beyond using the wife to do all that lol.

Yrkoon · 8 Dec 2011 at 01:24

slaves already happen if your signed on for 6 months you get sent on new deal which will include work placements 3 months long..... well below minimum wage.

Mr Krugga · 8 Dec 2011 at 01:25

bhavv said:
Maybe. But if there was Im sure that I could still outtroll it

Unless it amuses me, as Britboy and Kwerk did / do.

.... Where did kwerk go?

I'm fairly convinced it's one and the same troll under many aliases, SUPERTROLL of a kind.

EDIT: Can black people grow beards?

SexyGreyFox · 8 Dec 2011 at 07:49

Nemesis379 said:
I mean no disrespect to butlers, but they do as their told but they do have a choice whether or not they want to.

I am 12, what is this?

Andy · 8 Dec 2011 at 11:03

If i start my own company can I get free workers from the jobcentre, like Tesco and the poundshop do?

I need my back scrubbing and garden weeding. :confused: