Why isn't it recommended to get a diesel...
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diesel is better at overtaking on 5th gear from 25mph
Dunno like, my 2ltr petrol turbo isn't too bad at that
How many people have had problems with DPF filters on here, out of interest? I do wonder about the true scale of the issue. I asked around the office and could only find one person that had suffered a fault with a DPF in their car - but it was caused by a fuelling problem rather than numerous short trips.
Just curious
I had DFP, EGR and injector issues on my 55 plate focus with only 70k on the clock before selling it and that was with me doing 20k miles a year and lots of motorway runs
As a diesel owner I would even question the intelligence of getting one for high miles. I think if you do get a modern diesel you want to be backed by a cast iron warranty as a bare minimum.
I bought my diesel in December 2009. It was at 54,000 miles, the engine is the VAG 170ps TDI lump with a DPF. It doesn't even give that good economy - I tend to see 40-45MPG out of it on a run and whilst at first it was nice and reliable, since going over 90K or so, things have gone downhill.
Firstly, I got the dreaded injector failure. I was lucky in that SEAT covered this for me, but it would have been expensive had they not. Since then, however, i've had trouble with underboosting during DPF regen. I've had the dealer and an indy look at it, nobody seems to know or wants to guess at what the problem could be. So instead, whenever i'm on a DPF regen, I get to suffer a drop in power and random losses of boost instead.
After so long with it running well, i'm starting to resent the car, and fast. I expect it's the first signs that the DPF is packing up, and i'm saving frantically so that I can offload the thing before it does go and drop the bill on me (I believe it's something like £1200 for a new one).
If I could go back, knowing what I do now, i'd have gotten a petrol. And I do anything from 20-30K a year. The extra fuel cost is a small price to pay to not have to drive around with a long face every time the car decides it's going to lose boost momentarily.
I bought my diesel in December 2009. It was at 54,000 miles, the engine is the VAG 170ps TDI lump with a DPF. It doesn't even give that good economy - I tend to see 40-45MPG out of it on a run and whilst at first it was nice and reliable, since going over 90K or so, things have gone downhill.
Firstly, I got the dreaded injector failure. I was lucky in that SEAT covered this for me, but it would have been expensive had they not. Since then, however, i've had trouble with underboosting during DPF regen. I've had the dealer and an indy look at it, nobody seems to know or wants to guess at what the problem could be. So instead, whenever i'm on a DPF regen, I get to suffer a drop in power and random losses of boost instead.
After so long with it running well, i'm starting to resent the car, and fast. I expect it's the first signs that the DPF is packing up, and i'm saving frantically so that I can offload the thing before it does go and drop the bill on me (I believe it's something like £1200 for a new one).
If I could go back, knowing what I do now, i'd have gotten a petrol. And I do anything from 20-30K a year. The extra fuel cost is a small price to pay to not have to drive around with a long face every time the car decides it's going to lose boost momentarily.
There's also a demand for small diesel city cars from people who do ridiculously small annual mileages. Doesn't mean it's sensible.
173k miles here, no issues, but i have the older PD engine.
We've a new freelander thats been in twice at work for DPF faults over the last 6 months, and its less than a year old with just over 2k miles on the clock. Problem is its only used around town. Fail.
We've a new freelander thats been in twice at work for DPF faults over the last 6 months, and its less than a year old with just over 2k miles on the clock. Problem is its only used around town. Fail.
How many people have had problems with DPF filters on here, out of interest? I do wonder about the true scale of the issue. I asked around the office and could only find one person that had suffered a fault with a DPF in their car - but it was caused by a fuelling problem rather than numerous short trips.
Just curious
i have a skoda 2.0 tdi and the dpf has cost me a lot of money in repairs including having to fit a new dpf last year!
just about to fork out again for an exhaust pressure sensor.
wish i would have got the 1.9
I'm thinking they will. They offer all the advantages of both diesel and petrol engines combined.
- Cheaper to buy
- Refined
- Max torque from low down the rev range
- Economical
Im quite happy for conventional wisdom to stay as it is, now that mpg is the new 0-60 the price of second hand petrol cars will remain low.
I used to have a 1.9 Leon and I recall the noise and smell if I dared to wind down the windows in traffic. I cant imagine having a diesel engine in a convertible, assumably very unpleasant.
I used to have a 1.9 Leon and I recall the noise and smell if I dared to wind down the windows in traffic. I cant imagine having a diesel engine in a convertible, assumably very unpleasant.
It goes against the ideals of owning a convertible in my eyes. Of all the types of vehicles that diesel engines are fitted to, the convertible is probably the least suitable.
Clear day, sun shining, open road, foot down...and that sound. A six cylinder diesel would be better, but 95% of diesel drop-tops will be four pots.
When I got my second car a lot of people said it wouldn't be worth it, definitely the right call for me, saved loads and loads, good round town due to the torque, but it is mainly a commuter car over long distances, so quiet too.
But it is the last of the PD type I believe
But it is the last of the PD type I believe
I think it's more a question of "Why on earth would they want that?".
I don't think it'll happen that soon, simply because morons have it in their heads that diesel is the way to go for MPGs and low tax. Until we start to kick that stigma, diesel will stay.
Yes it is, that my dilemma, what do I change it for
More than the MPG on my commute I like that I do 400 miles to work in a shift and on 40 litres it gives me 500+ miles. So I only have to fill up once per shift.
I will happily swap to any petrol car that is classified as a small car and gives me 400+ miles range to a tank, regardless of MPG.
I was going to just get a CR Skoda but after doing my research I've written off getting a DPF CR any time soon.
Yes it is, that my dilemma, what do I change it for
More than the MPG on my commute I like that I do 400 miles to work in a shift and on 40 litres it gives me 500+ miles. So I only have to fill up once per shift.
I will happily swap to any petrol car that is classified as a small car and gives me 400+ miles range to a tank, regardless of MPG.
I was going to just get a CR Skoda but after doing my research I've written off getting a DPF CR any time soon.
Hi, the Ford 1.6 ecoboost engine will give you that. I can easily obtain 37mpg around town and just below 50mpg on a run, not driving slowly, or over if I drive like a granny..
Chris
My 2007 Civic (FK3) has 102K on the odo and no DPF (as standard)
I'm currently getting 47.2mpg around town without really trying.
Low down grunt is lovely and I love the turbo whistle. I'm thinking of a remap with EGR off soon as there is a bit of turbo lag.
In short.. i love my Diesel Civic and I don't foresee EVER getting another petrol version again.
I'm currently getting 47.2mpg around town without really trying.
Low down grunt is lovely and I love the turbo whistle. I'm thinking of a remap with EGR off soon as there is a bit of turbo lag.
In short.. i love my Diesel Civic and I don't foresee EVER getting another petrol version again.
Ive driven an A4 convertible with a dag dag. Tbh, with the top down, it didnt really matter what engine it had, i was too busy enjoying the top down experience. Thats why you buy a convertible, for the pose factor, the nice feeling of sunshine and openness.
My Accord, has had probs with the DPF, its a 2009 2.2 dtec, with 65k on the clock. Its never been particularly economical, but ive noticed it started using more oil in the last 6 months.The DPF light has come on twice in the last 6 months, that basically required me to drive at high revs for 15 mins or so,that fixed the light. I then got another light, which put the car in limp home mode, and I had to go to the dealer for a forced regen that took 2 hours.
All this has coincided with me doing more and more local miles
Thing is, before I got the car, I looked at the 2.0 petrol and that was not a nice engine at all, just didnt have any guts at all, so the diesel was the best option at the time, I dont really need a diesel, but we can only have diesels on the company car scheme now. They dont bother me, as a work tool they are great, but Ive got eveyone within my family to get rid of their diesel the costs are just too high for a local runaround type car.
My Accord, has had probs with the DPF, its a 2009 2.2 dtec, with 65k on the clock. Its never been particularly economical, but ive noticed it started using more oil in the last 6 months.The DPF light has come on twice in the last 6 months, that basically required me to drive at high revs for 15 mins or so,that fixed the light. I then got another light, which put the car in limp home mode, and I had to go to the dealer for a forced regen that took 2 hours.
All this has coincided with me doing more and more local miles
Thing is, before I got the car, I looked at the 2.0 petrol and that was not a nice engine at all, just didnt have any guts at all, so the diesel was the best option at the time, I dont really need a diesel, but we can only have diesels on the company car scheme now. They dont bother me, as a work tool they are great, but Ive got eveyone within my family to get rid of their diesel the costs are just too high for a local runaround type car.