Why...the question is why?

sphen said:
So first and second generation British citizens are "new"? Could terrorists not launch an attack from outside the UK. Last time I checked, flights from abroad landed at a number of UK airports.

Yes they could but it just takes the biscuit that they are living here, that we basically are supporting and paying for attacks against our own people.
 
Von Smallhausen said:
In a nutshell El, and this is my humble opinion, people are sometimes blinded by religion..


Thanks for sharing your perspective and insight, It is a good thing you didnt jump on the band wagon. **thumbs up**
 
sphen said:
You have misinterpreted what I have written.

Personally, I'm equally if not a little more concerned about our increasing crime levels in this country. Black-on-Black, the Gun problem and drugs are killing and destroying more lives.


Oh my bad.

I agree with you on that one. I said it before and im saying it again - People feel like the govt aint representing us in areas where we want them to. More should be down to tackle that kind of crime.
 
cymatty said:
Yes they could but it just takes the biscuit that they are living here, that we basically are supporting and paying for attacks against our own people.

You would be surprised, a lot of them from quite well off families. Some are very well educated indeed.

I don't disagree entire with a review of immigration, I just think it won't solve the problem.
 
sphen said:
I don't disagree entire with a review of immigration, I just think it won't solve the problem.


Perhaps it will work better than nothing. Let put things in perspective, the british embassy in Nigeria used to ger loads of application to come over here, what they found is this - Most of the application are always fradulent, not enough proof to show they have the right financial support, etc. To cut a long story short, British emmbassy then decide to introduce the use of quotas and points for an application in my country.....Guess what, application for visa fall by more than 50% and most of the problems encontered initially was reduced to a manageble level.

If it can work in Nigeria, it will definitely work if introduced here.
 
ElRazur said:
Really? perhaps you have point. I think those actions you describe fits in well with the profile of Millwall fans.

Erm, seriously i think i see your point but what i was trying to imply in my original post was those who refuse to play by the rules should either start doing so or find other alternatives.

Black people don't play by the rules, can we send them all back to nigeria too?
 
gurdas said:
Black people don't play by the rules, can we send them all back to nigeria too?


Why not, i mean they have bigger dicks and think they are all Chief and prince ....so why not?

Stop being silly, im reffering to those who refuse to integrate, thinks we are immorals and want us to change for them, those who want sharia law.....Dont you get it?
 
ElRazur said:
Why not, i mean they have bigger dicks and think they are all Chief and prince ....so why not?

Stop being silly, im reffering to those who refuse to integrate, thinks we are immorals and want us to change for them, those who want sharia law.....Dont you get it?

What about the blacks who don't integrate, living in their ghettos listening to their rubbish black music and eating soul food. Why should we be accomodating their culture, they aren't white, hence they have no right.
 
Whats with all the hate playa...... me love dem patties you get outside the Elephant shopping centre......
 
gurdas said:
What about the blacks who don't integrate, living in their ghettos listening to their rubbish black music and eating soul food. Why should we be accomodating their culture, they aren't white, hence they have no right.

I didnt know that music has colours? thanks for enlightening me.
Have you seen the list of things ive eaten before? (see my thread on that) I dont think some of it classed as soul food. I had a full english breakfast this morning - i guess by your standard im intergrating?

For how long do i have to string you along? come to think of it, im starting to like it.



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Can i at this point say thank you to CBS for teaching me how to keep my head when debating and DMpoole for teaching me the art of sarcasm. Thank you both.
 
and maybe instead of posting such slanderous stuff, that wasted energy could go into a solution ELRAZUR?

the black music awards seemed to be defined by colour and origin.

isnt this negatively effecting the UK culture, and bringing with it, gun culture, and gangster culture on a scale which we do not want?

your definition of the problem is too large to target one small centralised group.
 
Nickg said:
and maybe instead of posting such slanderous stuff, that wasted energy could go into a solution ELRAZUR?

the black music awards seemed to be defined by colour and origin.

isnt this negatively effecting the UK culture, and bringing with it, gun culture, and gangster culture on a scale which we do not want?

your definition of the problem is too large to target one small centralised group.

What is slanderous about what i said? It is a long op but please take your time and choose your pick! I guess one cannot satisfy the forum. I made a thread tittled "Possible middle east solutions" and i remember someone having a go at me! Now im talking about a problem we have yet im getting sticks...you guys gimme jokes.

You now dived into how black this and black that......Erm let me stop you for one second. This thread is about the current problem people living in this country are facing and me talking about it is not far-stretched. Im asking a series of questions and painting a picture of what i see happenning but clearly you dont see it that way.

Read the op AGAIN and come back and talk to me please.
 
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There will always be nutbars, extremist, who don't think they are able to do anything without resorting to violence, whatever their beliefs.

Sad thing is, this is all that they feel they can turn to... perhaps part of the solution would have been to find out what their issues were and take the preventative step of trying to solve them.
 
Shoseki said:
There will always be nutbars, extremist, who don't think they are able to do anything without resorting to violence, whatever their beliefs.

Sad thing is, this is all that they feel they can turn to... perhaps part of the solution would have been to find out what their issues were and take the preventative step of trying to solve them.


I agree

I do agree with you to some extent but how do you sort out an problem or whatever issue they've got when it will appear that fundamentally our ways and their belief is not even compatible and better still they think it is a righteous right for them to perceive us an immorals and infidels? Perhaps this is like a case of oil and water dont mix, maybe the only solution is two place both in different containers?
 
ElRazur said:
Really? perhaps you have point. I think those actions you describe fits in well with the profile of Millwall fans.

Erm, seriously i think i see your point but what i was trying to imply in my original post was those who refuse to play by the rules should either start doing so or find other alternatives.

Without wanting to derail your thread ElRazur I think the main reason people react to a post made about peoples intolerance by yourself is that in the past you have made some pretty intolerant posts yourself, and saying immigrants should like it or leave is pretty hypocritical, considering you're young ;) , black :cool: etc etc etc and an immigrant yourself

But in response to your thread, I think it is a small minority that are prepared to carry out such attacks on this country, the vast majority just want to get on with life. There is no excuse for wanting to murder innocent people, no matter what your belefs and the people who do so should be treated in the manner that they would treat citizens in this country.

As you say, if they dislike the society that has provided them with so much more than what they would have if they had stayed in their racial homeland, in such a etreme manner, then they should move back. It is their democratic right to questions actions that they do not like such as UK foriegn policy, but to blow up planes that again is as you say, beyond comprehension :(
 
wordy said:
Without wanting to derail your thread ElRazur I think the main reason people react to a post made about peoples intolerance by yourself is that in the past you have made some pretty intolerant posts yourself, and saying immigrants should like it or leave is pretty hypocritical, considering you're young ;) , black :cool: etc etc etc and an immigrant yourself
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I see your point on why certain posters have been trying to derail this thread. The only intolerant view they can say i have shown in the past is my view on gay/homosexuals. I have always maintain, and i still do, that my view on them dont mean i will attack anyone of them or behave in any homophobic way towards them in real life (or virtual world) because that will be breaking the law. I am within the law to express my view on them, and when i expresss my view i dont mention that they should be burn and all those nonsense...I dont agree with what they do but who am i to stop them? that's my view and tough if people in dont like it.

As for the rest of your post, i wanna say thanks too and i do agree with you.
 
I'm happy for all Brits/whites/Christians to leave their country if "they" leave Great Britain ..... seem a fair trade to me.
 
ElRazur said:
I didnt know that music has colours? thanks for enlightening me.
Have you seen the list of things ive eaten before? (see my thread on that) I dont think some of it classed as soul food. I had a full english breakfast this morning - i guess by your standard im intergrating?

When blacks stop walking down the street like 50 cent with a piece in their hip, then you'll be integrated.
 
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