A longer game is 'possible' but certainly not guaranteed. With games taking several years development time there's always a limit. Would you rather have 5 hours of excellent story, or 10 hours of drawn out plot? Are all games (use RPGs if you prefer) on the PS3 and Xbox360 longer by virtue of having more storage available on the disc? Final Fantasy had exceptional depth and survived (and prospered) on the PS2 for half a decade. I doubt you'll find many titles that exceed it in length and quality on blu-ray/etc.
Why the Wii needs to fail!
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A longer game is 'possible' but certainly not guaranteed. With games taking several years development time there's always a limit. Would you rather have 5 hours of excellent story, or 10 hours of drawn out plot? Are all games (use RPGs if you prefer) on the PS3 and Xbox360 longer by virtue of having more storage available on the disc? Final Fantasy had exceptional depth and survived (and prospered) on the PS2 for half a decade. I doubt you'll find many titles that exceed it in length and quality on blu-ray/etc.
My bad I was thinking of something else - even so, Nintendo will be doing incredibly well if they manage to sell 30 million wii's (the same ratio in reverse to present sales of PS3's, if you get what I mean
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eh i dont get it, u admit that gfx dont make a game and yet u say that the wii doesnt push technology forward... it has the most innovative controller system out of any 3 consoles. so much so that that alone has attracted many people to play it who wouldnt touch a console before...
from the way u have come across it seems that u think a serious gamer = someone who plays the games that look pretty...
cod4, isnt that also out on the wii? and yet u can use the nunchucks and what not to play. it just looks less graphically impressive.
i dont think u have thought your arguement thru. the next nintendo will no doubt have a even better controller system and better graphics. the next ps and xbox will also prolly have some sort of controller system like the wii. hence the wii has helped push tech forward. it hasnt harmed a thing
Yes I have thought it through. Technology needs to move forwards not backwards. In a world in which everyone is going out buying HD TV's a 480P only console is not what we want.. It shows that the general buying public are not interested in technology and just want to play games. Forget the controller, look at the lack of HD support, the lack of CPU & GFX performance. This has rewritten the rule books for new consoles coming out. Investors that hold the purse strings behind our lovely new consoles will look at this as less development costs = more profit.
1- the controller system maybe unique to the wii but motion sense has been around and dabbled with years its only just caught on.
2- no, the wii just has a version of MOH which barely looks as good as the old PS2 games.
3- sony or ms could release a identical controller for any of the past 4 systems, would that also be pushing forward tech.
i dont know anyone with a wii that actually plays on the thing.
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could but didnt. lots of people could have done lots of things, couldnt they?
well, here's one right here.
it only just caught on because nintentdo did it right. it was never implemented very well in whatever previous incarnation you choose to name. but you wouldnt give nintendo credit for getting it right, would you? no, you'd sooner say 'oh but its been out before, even if it failed'
oh well, that would give the rest of the world a chance to catch up then.how many people actually have 1080p lcd screens? im the only one i know of out of my friends and family. and thats a fair amount of people right there. what you have to remember is that the further ahead us enthusiasts push the boundaries, the futher behind we leave the rest of the world. and that doesnt do them (ie ms, sony,whatever) any good. just like buying a top of the line graphics card. if valve are to be believed, currently only 8% of the entire community who play steam games owns an 8800 series card. 8%, thats absolutely crazy but it does show you have far ahead of everybody we are......and yet we still want more. if you're wondering why im comparing it to top end video cards, well thats because nvidia and ati dont make the bulk of the profit from their top end cards, its generated by the entry level and mid range cards.
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innovation = more profit
numpty.
They cant go and release another slightly upgraded wii and expect it to sell loads because people will wonder why would it be any better than a wii.
I do agree the wii could have done with an upscaling chip of some sort to atleast bump it to 720p.
Next time round its obviously not going to be 480p, it doesnt need to have shiney shiney graphics, aslong as its running @ native res and doesnt have loads of jaggys.
I don't think Nintendo have ever sold a console at a loss. They can't afford to. What is Nintendo's business? Consoles and games. If those items make a loss, the company makes a loss. It's not like Microsoft, who can bail out the console division with profits from the software division; or Sony, who can bail out the console division with profits from other electronics divisions.
Nintendo have to make a profit, because if they don't the entire company is in trouble, not just one arm of it.
And in terms of profits, which is what actually matters, not sales?
The Wii is compatible with dual layer media.
By that rationale, Zelda games should have all been shorter in the past, as the consoles were less powerful. That doesn't really swing, to be honest.
Now admittedly old Zelda games were often in 2D, but even so.
It can afford to sell at a small loss, with software sales etc bumping it back up.
Nintendo isnt just console+game, it is toys etc aswell, these are more popular in Jap etc though
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Wii will never fail simply due to Mario, by reading the various posts on Mario Galaxy just proves that everyone and his dog loves a new mario game, even if its the only game they ever buy. Easily the numero uno games character of all time that simply sells systems, something that Sony and MS would give their right arm for to have.
It's not really next gen is it? not anymore.
a £150 8800gt creams current gen consoles
You would need to spend a minimum of £200 more to make the system complete though. Furthermore the PC market is a different one to games consoles.
Wii isn't next gen, but neither are PS3 or Xbox 360. They are all current gen systems. Whereas PS3 and 360 became more powerful systems, the Wii went for innovation and interactivity. Many previous systems have incorporated these kind of ideas into their consoles but the Wii is the first to be based upon it. That is why it was a step forward and deserves its place in the marketplace today.
Generation means generation, not power...
That leads tangentially on to another point. When the Wii was first announced, Nintendo explained that their main focus wasn't on doing anything incredibly fancy in the graphics department; rather one of the key aims was on reducing power consumption. They succeeded quite comprehensively in that department - the Wii uses about one tenth of the power of the PS3 and the XBOX 360.