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Why you SHOULD be using Firefox

Discussion in 'Windows & Other Software' started by opethdisciple, Dec 27, 2019.

  1. Phil2008

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    FF is a pile of rubbish now, I have switched to waterfox and palemoon, as these browsers are Firefox in the early years, plus the old plugins work too........

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  2. james.miller

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    I'm not worried about chromium's position or that google is behind it - as long as it stays open sources that's just dandy. That 'list' in the OP though, jeez. You only have to read to the second bullet point and already the Author has lost his credibility.

    Whaaat?? 2 points in and he's already obliterating his own article.

    "Firefox on mobile" isnt a reason to use Firefox - plenty of other browsers are on mobile.

    "Customisation" well, there are plugins and there are other browsers based on browsers and... Yeah. There's plenty of ways to make a browser work and behave just about any way you want.

    Total non-article.

    EDIT:

    Those tabs ^^^. Nope. no way.
     
  3. Elevon

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    What a load of crap, I started with Netscape then moved to Firefox version 3 (yes 3, decade ago), then over to Opera before it went Chromium based, then to FF until Quantum version came out (which had add on issues) . I went to Vivaldi which has lots of customisation that techies love. For me it's all about stability and customisation which Vivaldi has.

    :)
     
  4. opethdisciple

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    I only say that due to things like ESNI as an example. When new standards need to be tested or even adopted it's usually companies like Mozilla collaborating with the likes of Cloudflare to get things rolling. There are certain companies in the industry that work in a open source way and cloudflare are one of them so it makes them cool by proxy. (This is the techy in me speaking)

    So yea, it's not really a load of crap because you wouldn't find Cloudflare working with Google to do this as they dont share the same values around privacy, freedom and being open source.

    Anyway forget the main article read the Mozilla statement when Microsoft announced Edge was going Chrome based.

    It's not healthy for the state of the internet.
     
  5. Elevon

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    I don't see the problem, there are plenty of non Chromium browsers out there if that is what you want or prefer, we all have our favourites regardless of being tech savvy or not.
     
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  6. Secret_Window

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    I use Firefox on the pc and chrome on my mobile and tablet. I have tried using Firefox on mobile devices, but with Chome I find the integration is just better on mobile devices.
     
  7. opethdisciple

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    Germany's cyber-security agency recommends Firefox as most secure browser
     
  8. arc@css

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    Thanks for mentioning Vivaldi, I've not tried it before or even heard of it for that matter. So far, it seems very well organised and laid out. Liking it a lot. :)
     
  9. Vince

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    Techie here that has basically always hated FF. I used it for a few days once but find it a mess. I installed it on the back of this thread and still dont like it. Its also a proper pain in domain environments which basically put an end to it straight away for me.
     
  10. b00merang69

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    I would rather die in a ditch!!!
     
  11. darael

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    I really don't understand why there exists any dislike or hate towards Firefox. In my eyes, it is one of the more honest and customisable browsers compared to other major browsers.

    When branches of browsers are released, Chrome, Firefox or otherwise, I have to question what is in it for the developers and do I trust them. So far no branches appeal to me and I would rather trust a major developer such as Mozilla when it comes to browsing the internet.
     
  12. opethdisciple

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    Yes, I cant understand the hate either. It's based on old school assumptions.

    Like AMD being crap compared to Intel. This just doesn't apply any more.

    The issue is not that people use chrome. People are free to use what ever they like.

    The issue is that the internet is being shaped by chrome due to it's high usage. This in turn makes other browser developers adopted chromium for they're underling browser engine and thus websites are only being created with Chrome in mind.

    This also puts Google in the drivers seat when it comes to the direction the internet will go with regards to technology, freedom, privacy etc...

    If you want to support a free and open internet then you really need to start using a browser that supports those values. And Chrome and it's derivates just ain't that browser.

    Firefox is.
     
  13. Elevon

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    You are welcome, glad you like it. They have a pretty good community forum at Vivaldi website if you want some questions answered about layout, customisation etc...

    :)
     
  14. Sp00n

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    I'm with you man, I switched back to Firefox after reading Chris Beard's blog post on Edge switching to Blink.
     
  15. james.miller

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    I think this thread needs some balance. People are inferring Microsoft gave up and bowed out but that is not the case. Microsoft still contribute, only now they contribute chromium instead of fighting a loosing battle, trying to maintain compatibility with an Internet that's largely built for chrome anyway.

    https://www.pcmag.com/news/368180/microsoft-edge-on-chromium-what-does-it-mean

    I don't see the issue to be honest. MS are far from out of the game.
     
  16. opethdisciple

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    But your article says exactly what I'm saying:

    "But the idea of the non-vendor-specific, interoperable, standards-bases web seems to have died with the move; Firefox is now the last holdout among independent browser engines"

    If you care about freedom, privacy and choice then stop using any chromium based browsers.

    Only you can effect change!
     
  17. james.miller

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    I dont care about that. Chromium is open source and contributed to by MS, now. The only thing that's changed is Edge got better. MS can concentrate on helping to push web forward instead of trying to play catchup. Win-win as far as I'm concerned :)
     
  18. Elevon

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    So by your statement you are telling us not to use Chromium browsers so trying to stop those that enjoy Chromium browsers, wow some irony in that, as I stated more choice the better, sounds like you are just anti-Chromium personally, and want those that use Chromium based browsers to stop using them.

    Ever considered those that use them actually enjoy their Chromium based browsers and don't want to move, or back to Firefox in my case.

    :)
     
  19. mrbell1984

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    Yep this is how I look at it. Browsers wars should slow down but the technology should get better.

    5 days for Edge Chromium to be released to the public out of beta.
     
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  20. james.miller

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    These firefox vulnerabilities are badly timed are they? :p