Wii U

I like the fact that this might get the MS/Sony rolling on their new consoles a bit quicker rather than excitement for the Wii U itself. I get the feeling that by the time this is released we will be seeing some demo's and games from the new gen from the others which will look quite a bit more impressive and will turn a lot of gamers off after the Wii situation (I am referring to the slow drip of quality titles and a complete lack of mature titles, whether this changes with the Wii U or not it will hold in some peoples minds).

Unless HDTV improves to better resolutions why release a new console that is going to offer nothing new above what the new wii can do.I can't see ms or Sony releasing much until display technology catches up to show off what new consoles are capable of.
 
Didnt the 360 use a modified R520 GPU or something, im guessing the Wii U is likely to use a modified 48X0/58X0 GPU as anything below that would be worse or equal to the 360 and above a 58X0 GPU would be too costly.

In AMD's press release it states the GPU will be a custom Radeon HD chip which in my eyes would quate to a 48/58/68 series GPU with 58X0 being the most likely chip to be used based on cost/performance.
 
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I'm quite interested in this, as I don't own a Wii, but do have a 360 and PS3.

The main sticking point for this personally is price. The 3DS alone is >£150, so that controller must be £200+ on its own? Then add the console, you're looking at £350-£400 entry. They say it'll be competitively priced, however I see that meaning that the console itself will be ~£150-200, then the controller will make up the rest of the price.

Unless it has some proper A+ titles, I'll stay away. My 360 and PS3 can keep me occupied for a few more years still!

You won't be saying that when the games you want to play are only available on new platforms but I wouldn't worry too much about the cost as the hardware in the wii 2 should be cheap to produce (it is basically the 360/PS3 6/7 years after the fact) meaning they can spend more of the budget on that tablet thing.

Quite embarrassing that they used footage from their competitors platforms in the presentation video though.
 
Unless HDTV improves to better resolutions why release a new console that is going to offer nothing new above what the new wii can do.I can't see ms or Sony releasing much until display technology catches up to show off what new consoles are capable of.

Just because resolution is fixed at 1920x1080 doesn't mean you can't render better images on the screen. I could run Quake 1 at 1920x1080, but it's not going to look as nice as Crysis at 1920x1080, is it?
 
Unless HDTV improves to better resolutions why release a new console that is going to offer nothing new above what the new wii can do.I can't see ms or Sony releasing much until display technology catches up to show off what new consoles are capable of.

So visuals will not be improved because most commercial screens go up to 1080p. Seriously lol.
 
Unless HDTV improves to better resolutions why release a new console that is going to offer nothing new above what the new wii can do.I can't see ms or Sony releasing much until display technology catches up to show off what new consoles are capable of.

Graphical power though. As said, Crysis at hi res looks better than Quake at hi res and Crysis requires much more computing power than quake does.
 
So visuals will not be improved because most commercial screens go up to 1080p. Seriously lol.

I never said they would not be improved,but not to the point to warrant a console just yet for what will be a stop gap until 4000 x2000 displays become mainstream
 
I never said they would not be improved,but not to the point to warrant a console just yet for what will be a stop gap until 4000 x2000 displays become mainstream

We are already hitting the limits with the current generation. I can tell you now we are screaming for larger texture budgets and removal of other limitations.
 
I never said they would not be improved,but not to the point to warrant a console just yet for what will be a stop gap until 4000 x2000 displays become mainstream

Hold your horses... There's no point expecting TVs to jump to that sort of resolution yet. I doubt regular HDTV has remotely reached market saturation yet, and people won't stand for buying another TV so soon. Look at Blu-Ray... that's still taking it's time to take off. I'm pretty sure DVD still outsells Blu-Ray, doesn't it?

If you think there isn't scope for an improvement over 360 grade graphics, then I think you're missing the point. Most 360 games are rendered at 720p or thereabouts and then scaled up, and even then the effects involved are well behind what can be done on a PC. If they increase what can be internally rendered, and improve the effects and physics that they can create, then so much the better.
 
Displays can output at quadHD levels just they're not commercially viable at all right now, they're either corporate level or millionaire level products. :p
 
Hold your horses... There's no point expecting TVs to jump to that sort of resolution yet. I doubt regular HDTV has remotely reached market saturation yet, and people won't stand for buying another TV so soon. Look at Blu-Ray... that's still taking it's time to take off. I'm pretty sure DVD still outsells Blu-Ray, doesn't it?

If you think there isn't scope for an improvement over 360 grade graphics, then I think you're missing the point. Most 360 games are rendered at 720p or thereabouts and then scaled up, and even then the effects involved are well behind what can be done on a PC. If they increase what can be internally rendered, and improve the effects and physics that they can create, then so much the better.
 
Hold your horses... There's no point expecting TVs to jump to that sort of resolution yet. I doubt regular HDTV has remotely reached market saturation yet, and people won't stand for buying another TV so soon. Look at Blu-Ray... that's still taking it's time to take off. I'm pretty sure DVD still outsells Blu-Ray, doesn't it?

If you think there isn't scope for an improvement over 360 grade graphics, then I think you're missing the point. Most 360 games are rendered at 720p or thereabouts and then scaled up, and even then the effects involved are well behind what can be done on a PC. If they increase what can be internally rendered, and improve the effects and physics that they can create, then so much the better.
Enough to release a loss making console.
 
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