Wii U

Sinny said:
Except this is where Nintendo exceeds as they always release a console with a profit margin, no subsidized costs.
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Any quotes or reference to back that up? No, as Nintendo never release any such information.

Its pure speculation that they make up to 10$ per console.
 
DeathStorm said:
You won't be saying that when the games you want to play are only available on new platforms but I wouldn't worry too much about the cost as the hardware in the wii 2 should be cheap to produce (it is basically the 360/PS3 6/7 years after the fact) meaning they can spend more of the budget on that tablet thing.

Quite embarrassing that they used footage from their competitors platforms in the presentation video though.
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I never said that I wouldn't be getting the next gen Xbox or PS3, however I don't foresee them coming out for at least 2 years. They'll only usually announce them at E3, and then will then need 6+ months to get in to the production swing of things, so minimum of 18 months away, therefore my comment is still perfectly valid.

I will remain quite skeptical about the Wii U price until I see something showing how much it will cost. I still think it'll be closer to the £300+ mark at least.
 
bAz^uk said:
Any quotes or reference to back that up? No, as Nintendo never release any such information.

Its pure speculation that they make up to 10$ per console.
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Not quite $10 you're but take this recent example from the Wii, this was true from the get go on the console where they made a Profit on each console from the start. $6 profit on each console sold to begin with, not exactly bad ;)

Forbes said:
But here's the winning point: Unlike its competitors, Nintendo has figured out how to make money from its console sales. Sony loses money on each Playstation sold. Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people ) might just break even. But every Wii brings in $6 of operating profit for Nintendo, says David Gibson, an analyst at Macquarie Securities.
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Full article from Forbes can be viewed in the link below where they talk about how Nintendo approached the Wii.

http://www.forbes.com/2008/11/28/nintendo-wii-wii2-tech-personal-cz-cs-1201wii.html
 
jrodga2k5 said:
Not quite $10 you're but take this recent example from the Wii, this was true from the get go on the console where they made a Profit on each console from the start. $6 profit on each console sold to begin with, not exactly bad ;)



Full article from Forbes can be viewed in the link below where they talk about how Nintendo approached the Wii.

http://www.forbes.com/2008/11/28/nintendo-wii-wii2-tech-personal-cz-cs-1201wii.html
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I still don't see any official statements? All hear say.

Either way my original point is that the revenue for them is in the games attached to the console.
 
bAz^uk said:
Any quotes or reference to back that up? No, as Nintendo never release any such information.

Its pure speculation that they make up to 10$ per console.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii

While Microsoft and Sony have experienced losses producing their consoles in the hopes of making a long-term profit on software sales, Nintendo reportedly has optimized production costs to obtain a significant profit margin with each Wii unit sold.[80] On September 17, 2007, the Financial Times reported that this direct profit per Wii sold may vary from $13 in Japan to $49 in the United States and $79 in Europe.[81] On December 2, 2008, Forbes reported that Nintendo makes a $6 operating profit per Wii unit sold.[
 
Sinny said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii

While Microsoft and Sony have experienced losses producing their consoles in the hopes of making a long-term profit on software sales, Nintendo reportedly has optimized production costs to obtain a significant profit margin with each Wii unit sold.[80] On September 17, 2007, the Financial Times reported that this direct profit per Wii sold may vary from $13 in Japan to $49 in the United States and $79 in Europe.[81] On December 2, 2008, Forbes reported that Nintendo makes a $6 operating profit per Wii unit sold.[
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Would be interesting for Nintendo to release actual figures.
 
bAz^uk said:
Would be interesting for Nintendo to release actual figures.
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Why would it be interesting?

Maybe to other manufacturers and 3rd parties, but for consumers it's irrelevant. All we really need to know is that they make a profit from every console sold.
 
I've been thinking all the different controller applications from this configuration of a tablet.

I would make a perfect steering wheel. Especially for a codemasters F1 game. Hold the TabPad in front of you and turn it to turn the wheel. The touch display could then represent a working F1 steering wheel centre controls. Race info could be pushed on to the touch screen.

The TabPad could become a flight yoke. Again hold it like a steering wheel in front of you, then you can add forward and backward motions to it.

You could hold the TabPad up in front of your head and turn around to use as a tank turret aiming in a tank sim or BF3.

Best of all, it would make RTS's a breeze. Just use the stylus to command units on the touch screen, which could also house the game menus and unit options. Using the analogue sticks to scroll the battlefield :)

The possibilities are immense when you start to look into control schemes.

Is it only me that can look past its quirkyness and see the potential it could realise?
 
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bAz^uk said:
I still don't see any official statements? All hear say.

Either way my original point is that the revenue for them is in the games attached to the console.
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Why would they need to come out and make an official statement? In fact that would be horrendous marketing from them.

With Nintendo reaping the benefits of consoles sold for profit with other companies making losses on consoles then would that not make people think they should be lowering the price etc?

Companies announce their turnover and profits at the end of each financial year which Nintendo have continued to do, why would they need to make official what they make off each console? :rolleyes:

As for your point about the software, yes indeed profits to be made there but let me put this figure into perspective....

85 million consoles sold....$6 Operating Profit each....

$510,000,000 operating profit from console sales alone, believe me Nintendo did the right thing with the Wii in which to turn a great profit on their console alone ;)

Easily funded their new consoles development and they could easily subsidise prices of the console/controller if they wanted but I suspect they will still somehow sell at a profit again :p
 
DaveyD said:
I never said that I wouldn't be getting the next gen Xbox or PS3, however I don't foresee them coming out for at least 2 years. They'll only usually announce them at E3, and then will then need 6+ months to get in to the production swing of things, so minimum of 18 months away, therefore my comment is still perfectly valid.

I will remain quite skeptical about the Wii U price until I see something showing how much it will cost. I still think it'll be closer to the £300+ mark at least.
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I seem to recall paying £300 for my PS2 when it came out and the value of sterling hasn't exactly gone up, I don't really see how Nintendo can charge a lot more for their console the target market can only go so high before parents say no.

I agree with you on the delay before Sony/Microsoft could release a new console but I'm not sure I see any real need for them to do so, they already have consoles just as powerful as the Wii 2 don't they? I'm actually not very optimistic for console gaming given how successful Nintendo has been making a console without many good games but clearly I'm in the minority.
 
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Yeah if there was a realistic racing simulator type of game, the touch screen could be very useful for extra statistics and or stuff. On-the-fly adjustments for this or anything other type of game could work.

RTS game could definitely benefit if they are implemented properly. You do get some really good hybrid Strategy/RTS games on the DS, and so to bring a one to the big screen is much better.
 
I watched the E3 stuff with interest to see what they would come up with.

What I don't understand is this - either the tablet/controller has a heck of a lot of gear inside, or nintendo have done some super clever wireless tech (sending 1080p over wireless isn't easy), or what you get on the controller is a 'cut down rez' version of your TV game.

Personally I buy pretty much everything when it comes out - I'm not a fanboy of any brand tbh and no doubt I would probably buy this just to have shiny things, however my point is I use a controller to controller the game not to look at or wander round. I play when I watch the screen. If I want portable I play 3DS/PSP etc.

I wonder if they will do anything about online - getting a very cool online setup like Xbox Live (which I find works well). What about built in storage - or do nintendo games never need patching etc ;)

I can't believe it's custom format disc - wth - why don't they just make it blu-ray and be done. If a family can have 1 box under the TV rather than 2 or 3 then it's surely a selling point. Yeah it's anti piracy (an no doubt nothing to do with Nintendo having control of their manufacture).

It's obviously more than a super controller as it's 1 per WII-U rather than 4 (I'm sure I read/saw this). So that would assume no multiplayer fancy feature games?

Maybe I will be pleasantly suprised we shall see the games, features + price point atm I feel it's just a bit odd - I haven't bought Kinect/Move - I own an ipad. It's great but when I want to play Battlefield/COD/La Noire etc I grab a traditional controller and play these the old fashioned way quite happily.

Whilst the Wii was a great success of the 3 people I spoke to today - none of them either have used them this year or have them connected. I just wonder if other people like this will shy away from Wii U with the worry of it being a shiny bauble and not much else.
 
jrodga2k5 said:
Why would they need to come out and make an official statement? In fact that would be horrendous marketing from them.

With Nintendo reaping the benefits of consoles sold for profit with other companies making losses on consoles then would that not make people think they should be lowering the price etc?

Companies announce their turnover and profits at the end of each financial year which Nintendo have continued to do, why would they need to make official what they make off each console? :rolleyes:

As for your point about the software, yes indeed profits to be made there but let me put this figure into perspective....

85 million consoles sold....$6 Operating Profit each....

$510,000,000 operating profit from console sales alone, believe me Nintendo did the right thing with the Wii in which to turn a great profit on their console alone ;)

Easily funded their new consoles development and they could easily subsidise prices of the console/controller if they wanted but I suspect they will still somehow sell at a profit again :p
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I said purely out of interest. My original point has gone off on a tangent and yes to make it profitable is indeed a feat in its own.
 
1ofaKind said:
I can't believe it's custom format disc - wth - why don't they just make it blu-ray and be done. If a family can have 1 box under the TV rather than 2 or 3 then it's surely a selling point. Yeah it's anti piracy (an no doubt nothing to do with Nintendo having control of their manufacture).
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Yeah like you said, to combat piracy, but probably also don't want to pay royalties for the use of Blu-Ray.
 
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