maybe
but i love that the government use this as there biggest defence against wikileaks despite the fact that they brutally killed thousands of civillians themselves. including cases where it was covered up.
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but i love that the government use this as there biggest defence against wikileaks despite the fact that they brutally killed thousands of civillians themselves. including cases where it was covered up.
I assume that was aimed at me and WW2?
Because WW2 has been over for ~65 years ... what potential military significance can there be?
The reason the files are classified is due to the embarrassment they will cause, especially for America who greatly benefited from the Nazi scientists, for plenty of other influential companies due to their conduct during the war ...
But embarrassment is not a reason to keep something classified, if you are going to be embarrassed by your actions then you should not commit those actions in the first place.
So apparently US gov. values not confirming Wikileaks documents far more than it values protecting its informants ...
Would they? I doubt it, there are plenty of people now who know how to build a nuclear weapon, plenty of them in unstable places such as Pakistan too.
I am not saying either
That is very different to a government descion that is mostly above the law and is just not included in the criminal justice system.
What laws is the government braking? who is going to charge them and with what force is said system going to bring them to justice if they wont come willingly. The closest we have to such a thing is UN, which is a total mess and does not have the balls to achieve it's aims and no military might.
weapons, research, tactics. There are many many things that can and are still relevant for today.
But I expect main reason is things are classified with a time lapse as standard, and to remove it a team would have to go through each one individually and make sure it is no longer relevant. How do they do that, who do they contact to make sure it is not relevant. it's a ball ache and time consuming and for what point? Possible but not really practical.
It is well known and documented Russia and America harvested scientists and used them on many projects.
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Soldato
I agree, quite ridiculous that governments that want to cover up the deaths of thousands of civilians uses "it may put civilians in danger" as an excuse why they shouldn't be published.
Although wikileaks is down Sky News is running with them as they come in and they are coming online bit by bit at http://www.guardian.co.uk/
Plenty of juicy stuff coming out...
No they value not comforting the identity of their informants over uncertain identification.
Ie wiki leaks says confirm informants and we will remove them, Us gov does wikileaks turns around and publishes list of 1000% us government confirms informants .
or the list gets leaked an published elsewhere.
it's lose lose for the US and the informants and win win for wiki leaks.
You would be surprised at what military and political secrets would still have some influence today.
Are they, you sure?
Caporegime
So you reckon that the best way to deal with someone exposing corruption within governments would be to obviously assassinate him, interesting idea.
Based on historic disclosure of the truth relating to pretty much anything from our government, you have me convinced. Our own government is just gagging to own up to the bad things it has done in the past.
Tony Blair recently owned up to being Americas bitch in Iraq and having no where near the level of proof needed to go into Iraq. He is now serving his term in prison for indirectly causing the death of all our soldiers since.
Oh wait, I think I have been reading the onion again.
Yes they would be Pakistan has a nuclear program far in advance of ww2, but they would be very useful lto any nation wanting to start a nuclear program, as it only need old technology and shows the working from the ground up.
If you've got the full documentation, schematics of machinery and the calculations you don't have to discover it all yourself.
You're honestly saying the multitude of nuclear programs which are on going would be a hell of a slot easier or just on the construction phase is they basically had an instruction manual?
I'm split two ways over this.
1. wouldn't trust the government as far as I could throw them, so any release of documents that depict what goes on in the world without media spin or political steering, I'm all for it.
Wake up and smell the coffee time.
2. However, releasing documents that contain names of undercover agents, how we have infiltrated some place or our on going tactical plans and such like is nuts.
Sensorship where it really would affect our security is all that is needed.
1. wouldn't trust the government as far as I could throw them, so any release of documents that depict what goes on in the world without media spin or political steering, I'm all for it.
Wake up and smell the coffee time.
2. However, releasing documents that contain names of undercover agents, how we have infiltrated some place or our on going tactical plans and such like is nuts.
Sensorship where it really would affect our security is all that is needed.
No they aren't. research and trials are still very relevant and include a hell of a lot of information.
Your dismissal of the Manhattan project just shows how you are not thinking.
The technology and knowledge of places like Pakistan is far ahead of what Manhattan project had in it ...
errr ok?
lets read that post again shall we.
Nope don't see any assasination there.
Nope non there either.
Bit insulting but certainly not murderous.
Nope.
Well fez i cant quite see how you got "assassinate him " from that?
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Soldato
I think that guy is the biggest hypocrite, eveyone else's information is free for him to do what he likes with, but operates in secrecy and has large encrypted sections of his website
I dont like the idea that he gets to pick whats safe to release and whats not
peoples lives are in the balance on some of this stuff
I dont like the idea that he gets to pick whats safe to release and whats not
peoples lives are in the balance on some of this stuff
Wow you picked one country well done how about other countrys, groups pr individual.
do you really want or research, technical drawings and information on the Manhattan project released to anyone with an internet connection. That goes for any other government project and that doesn't have to be a weapon at all.