Will Nvidia Ever Support Freesync ?

[Dicehunter]

I did but I went back to the CRT as the IQ on my BenQ 2411XT was utter garbage Anyway, I prefer to play with most details turned off anyway, in the FPS games that I pla. O and at 800x600/1028x768

You do know it's 2015 and not 1996 right ?

 

[LambChop]

Would you buy a Freesync screen then?

He's obv trolling.

 

[Wizzfizz]

You do know it's 2015 and not 1996 right ?

You'd be surprised at how many people still play and sort after a decent CRT to game on! Especially for FPS games

 

[humbug]

Would you buy a Freesync screen then?

IDK.

AMD can't support G-Sync because of the extra hardware required. They are also too expensive because of that hardware. Nvidia could support Adaptive-Sync.

So G-Sync is absolutely out. Given that they cost the same as a standard screen; If and when i get a new screen it probably will be Free-Sync even if i still have an Nvidia GPU.

 

[bru]

They don't currently have the ability to support A-Sync via their hardware, so they went with the modules and because of this, they had the tech out a good year before AMD had Freesync. That's not to say future cards won't have the ability but as it stands now, they can't do A-Sync via hardware.

People keep saying that NVidia cannot do Adaptive Sync in hardware and yet they do it just fine on the GSync branded laptops.
As for people saying it is just a software solution, well if it works, then fine. Freesync isn't exactly just a hardware solution, anyone remember that long wait for the drivers, which of course are just a software component.

 

[Rofflay]

If Nvidia ever support Freesync AMD are dead, You would be lucky to see a 15% market share for PC GPU segment. Doubt me? Well just take a look at the shameful software they have out.

VSR is a shadow of DSR it does not even support over 60fps? And VSR had the 21:9 support ninja removed. Thier frame rate capping software also has a cap of 90. They are unfriendly to competitive gamers at the minute.

I certainly could never think of buying one when the above issues are not fixed. Downright lazy lazy lazy just sitting there waiting for the knockout blow from Nvidia.

 

[humbug]

If Nvidia ever support Freesync AMD are dead, You would be lucky to see a 15% market share for PC GPU segment. Doubt me? Well just take a look at the shameful software they have out.

VSR is a shadow of DSR it does not even support over 60fps? And VSR had the 21:9 support ninja removed. Thier frame rate capping software also has a cap of 90. They are unfriendly to competitive gamers at the minute.

I certainly could never think of buying one when the above issues are not fixed. Downright lazy lazy lazy just sitting there waiting for the knockout blow from Nvidia.

IDK about removed 21:9 but are you sure VSR is limited to 60 FPS? and a 60 FPS cap on Dynamic Frame Rate Control?

I don't remember VSR being capped to anything, or DFRC to 60.

Are you running an AMD GPU at the moment?

 

[LoadsaMoney]

I think the only point we'll see nvidia supporting adaptive sync will be if the majority of monitors (especially cheaper and mid range) out there start supporting it by default and people buy them "by accident" for the other features they offer, and later think, "now that I'm upgrading my gpu, I might go AMD since my monitor supports free sync already". Then, nvidia risk losing market share as people then think "man this sync stuff is cool, I'll stick with AMD".

So it would have to happen organically. I don't plan on buying gsync monitors because I don't know what AMD will bring to the table next year. If the monitor also supported free sync, that would potentially be a different story though.

They won't be able to though, as AMDs going belly up aren't they.

 

[nashathedog]

They won't be able to though, as AMDs going belly up aren't they.

I've got my egg timer ticking.....

 

[Rofflay]

IDK about removed 21:9 but are you sure VSR is limited to 60 FPS? and a 60 FPS cap on Dynamic Frame Rate Control?

I don't remember VSR being capped to anything, or DFRC to 60.

Are you running an AMD GPU at the moment?

Nope i am running a 980 so i can have a work-around for games with no AA and since i use a 1080p VA with strobing i rejoice in the fact i have 3840x2160 available at 120hz. Now look at AMD... http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/technologies-gaming/vsr

1920x1080 120hz is only capable of 2048 X 1536 @ 120Hz where as Nvidia do 4K 144hz+ not to mention thier 1080p 60hz has a maximum of 3840 X 2400. And a quick google on Dynamic frame rate control will bring up that the range is 55-90. 21:9 VSR support was also removed in driver version 14.12 for some reason.

 

[rtho782]

Thing is GSync and Freesync are less needed at 144hz anyway.

If you are on a 60hz screen with vsync, the display updates every 1/60th of a second.

If it's taking you 1/63rd of a second to draw a frame (i.e you'd be at 63fps without vsync) all is good.

If it takes you 1/59th of a second to draw a frame, suddenly you miss the next refresh and have to wait for the one after, before displaying that frame and starting the next. i.e. you now see 30fps.

With a 144hz screen, there are more factors of 144 to consider. If you miss the first refresh you are down to 72hz, miss that one and you're down to 48hz, which is less than 60 but still playable and far more than 30. Even miss the next one and you're down to 36 - still 20% more than 30. Miss the next and you're down to 28.8fps.

My point is only that with a 144hz screen and VSync, the experience is much better than a 60hz screen anyway.

I have a feeling that much of the positive impression of GSync/Freesync comes from 144hz screens. I first ran my RoG Swift on AMD, coming from a 1600p screen, so the only real difference was the refresh rate, and it was a massive improvement. GSync made it a bit better but I almost feel half the benefit there was from moving away from 7000 series trifire and frame pacing issues that could also have been solved by XDMA crossfire.

 

[andybird123]

The problem isn't just going from 144 down to 72, the problem is that if you are averaging 120fps say, some frames will be less than the threshold and others will be above meaning a double frame, which causes a judder... yes 144Hz is a big difference over 60Hz, but for a lot of games that vary from say 90-130fps, no variable refresh is clearly a big difference to me over having variable refresh

I can't seriously consider not having it now

 

[Gregster]

Running the Swift on the Fury X was painful to me. Not the cards fault but I seem to be overly sensitive to stutter and tearing and really did notice it straight away. Switching back to Nvidia was night and day on the Swift and like Andy, I would hate to be without it now.