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Will We Start Seeing 1080 Prices Getting Sensible Again Soon..?

I don't see the point in getting a 980 at this point, it's so over priced that it's simply not worth it. Wait until the 980ti is out as then even if you're set on a 980 there will be 2 factors low ring the price, first there will be a more powerful GPU so it won't be the performance leader and then stock should have caught up a bit (and also have some swapping to wanting to buy the other cards anyway) so higher stock, lower demand and no longer performance leader.

Playing the game of gouging right now is a bit pointless.
 
prices will drop when supply and demand changes to the consumer's favour.

I suspect manufacturing or at least distribution has deliberately been kept low to artificially keep prices high. As supplies seem to be drip feeding to retailers instead of in large bulk.

The exchange rate is not helping but I dont believe for one minute thats had a bigger affect than price gouging.

The retail price of a 1070 e.g. in the usa at today's exchange rate is 310gbp. Although granted if you add 20% vat as I think that price has no tax then it would become 372gbp. But that is still a good £50 or so cheaper than comparable cards in the UK.
 
Problem is retailers are probably hedging for another 5% drop in exchange rates before they have to pay so that's another 20 to 25 quid.

But yeah the other 25 quid is gouging due to shortage.

Which we all probably could have lived with if it hadn't come on top of 50 plus of exchange rate in the 1070s case.
 
Well the exchange rate has improved but the prices are still the same. How quick they went up I was expecting them to drop just as quick, that never happens though does it. The price is high because of price gouging and brexit is been used as an excuse.
 
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Well the exchange rate has improved but the prices are still the same. How quick they went up I was expecting them to drop just as quick, that never happens though does it. The price is high because of price gouging and brexit is been used as an excuse.
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I suspect that one day isnt enough and its only a small improvement.

You could drop your price today but then still find a much worse rate when you come to pay,

And when prices went up, there was always a day or two delays before the effect of the exchange rate moving. Initially, Gibbo didnt change the price until the rate had dropped by 4 or 5%


It only improved by just over 1% yesterday and today already its sliding downhill again so yesterdays gains could all be wiped out today.

Come and pass comment if it improves by 5% and prices don't change.

Also the long term trend is for the pound to remain below 1.3 for the whole of 2016-17 so get used to it. These prices are here to stay

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/g...wn-trend-week-ahead-see-s-central-bank-action
 
I think the whole brexit is being used as an excuse and really whatever the outcome these were always going to be price gouged because quite simply demand is too high and people are paying it. If however literally everyone wouldn't buy one then they'd be forced to lower the price. Though we all know this would never happen :p
 
Tommy_Here said:
I think the whole brexit is being used as an excuse and really whatever the outcome these were always going to be price gouged because quite simply demand is too high and people are paying it. If however literally everyone wouldn't buy one then they'd be forced to lower the price. Though we all know this would never happen :p
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Don't get me wrong there is definite price gouguing going on as well.

Perhaps a third extra due to gouging, two thirds due to the exchange rate.

Overall though that is adding £70 to 1070s and £100 to 1080s, both of which people thought the list prices were steep on launch.
 
Greebo said:
Don't get me wrong there is definite price gouguing going on as well.

Perhaps a third extra due to gouging, two thirds due to the exchange rate.

Overall though that is adding £70 to 1070s and £100 to 1080s, both of which people thought the list prices were steep on launch.
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definite price gouging, just annoys me when retailers treat us as if we're thick. they'er not going to admit they're price gouging but whatever the case we know that's the case. but yea, I was hoping the 1080 would have been a sub £500 card noway is it worth over £600 though :/
 
Business is about max profit, but if you can use an excuse to put up prices that helps :)

Prices will drop when the demand drops and the profit margin has to be slimmed down.

The 1080 is just the base card, the Ti has yet to appear once everyone has grabbed the basic cards, the Ti will cause a new frenzy and inflated prices same as the 1080 is at the moment.
 
Deleted member 2277 said:
Well the exchange rate has improved but the prices are still the same. How quick they went up I was expecting them to drop just as quick, that never happens though does it. The price is high because of price gouging and brexit is been used as an excuse.
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Tommy_Here said:
I think the whole brexit is being used as an excuse and really whatever the outcome these were always going to be price gouged because quite simply demand is too high and people are paying it. If however literally everyone wouldn't buy one then they'd be forced to lower the price. Though we all know this would never happen :p
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Rustyone said:
Business is about max profit, but if you can use an excuse to put up prices that helps :)

Prices will drop when the demand drops and the profit margin has to be slimmed down.

The 1080 is just the base card, the Ti has yet to appear once everyone has grabbed the basic cards, the Ti will cause a new frenzy and inflated prices same as the 1080 is at the moment.
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Yup. I called it way back before any of this happened, businesses would use politics as an excuse to raise prices. See how easily prices of things have risen due to GBP, yet we've had zero news of people's wages rising to compensate. Nor have we had much news of prices dropping back down whenever the the value of GBP goes up.

Profit is required for a business to stay afloat. Retailers are the middleman for these products and they need to make something to keep in business. And yet, besides all the shenanigans about exchange rates and retailer price gouging, the cards themselves start off at terrible prices. We all work for various companies earning our wages and they've got to come form somewhere.

An example:
In historic times, traders would buy cheap in places of high supply/low demand, then travel long distances to sell high in places of low supply/high demand. E.g. buying spices while in a foreign country and then selling them over here.

That's just it, it's not just retailer-gouging and the pound. I saw a M******p for one of the new Nvidia cards the other day, it was far and above the RRP. For those that don't know, M******p cuts out the middle-man and lets consumers buy directly from the manufacturer... as long as enough people pledge to buy it since those companies only deal in bulk. Usually it works out much cheaper than buying a single-product from a particular retailer. Right now 'bulk' being 2 digits for the new cards. No idea if I'm allowed to talk about this, would they be considered a competitor?

These cards have difficult prices to begin with. We've all seen Gibbo's posts recently where he's been very open about the process of obtaining stock and the prices to buy and the profit margins.

Currently, GBP is on the rise, but only because of politics yet again, as people expect one candidate to 'go easy' with moving forward. I recall one of Gibbo's posts mentioning at certain increment values of GBP, they tend to decrease/increase prices. So hope GBP gets to those numbers for price drops, if Gibbo keeps his word on it. But mainly hope for stock to stabilise. We've not even got any custom 4GB RX 480s yet.
 
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Yup. I called it way back before any of this happened, businesses would use politics as an excuse to raise prices. See how easily prices of things have risen due to GBP, yet we've had zero news of people's wages rising to compensate. Nor have we had much news of prices dropping back down whenever the the value of GBP goes up.
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Why on earth would wages rise to compensate for the drop in GBP causing the cost of certain goods to rise. That does not follow at all.


Anyhow, 1080 prices will become 'sensible' when GP102/1080ti is launched as they will need to drop the price of the 1080 to make room for the 1080ti/TitanP combo at the 1080's current price point. There is only so far they can push top tier pricing at any given time. That's your best bet if you are waiting for it to drop to whatever your sweetspot price/perf may be.
 
Tropicocity said:
Despite campaigning heavily for remain, I can't see Theresa May (being sworn in today as our official new PM) going against 51.9% of the population.. but then again, politicians are all corrupt and out to serve whatever their own desires are, so it could potentially happen yet!
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Dunno, the problem is 51.9% of the population is not convincing is it? There's no garantee it's going to work and is a big risk to take with our future for just 1.9% win over a 50/50% split.

I can see pro's and con's to both a leave and remain so I'm kind of on the fence with it all. Given how close the vote was we have to get a good deal or not do it IMO.

Ironically I reckon if we leave the EU and it all doesn't go to plan those worse affected will be the typical leave voter. Many for example were overjoyed at the wealthy losing money immediately afterwards but fail to see that it is those same people who are "job creators". They also fail to see that without high immigration future pensions are less likely to be paid by the government.The more wealthy probably won't have their homes repossessed and have the ability to skip away from the UK for better opportunities if the UK,or Britain finds itself in a real mess. And without EU governance it's entirely possible that our country will be run by the rich and the tax dodgers, those the average leave voters despise.
 
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Dunno, the problem is 51.9% of the population is not convincing is it? There's no garantee it's going to work and is a big risk to take with our future for just 1.9% win over a 50/50% split.
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..but it's not 1.9%, its 3.8%. It's a big chunk of the populace.

Besides Theresa May has already pledged to make Brexit work. It's clear she doesn't plan to remain.
 
how are 1080 prices any different than what the 980ti was selling for last year?

£580 - £620 seemed to be the pricepoint, i'm seeing exactly the same for these
 
spulse said:
how are 1080 prices any different than what the 980ti was selling for last year?

£580 - £620 seemed to be the pricepoint, i'm seeing exactly the same for these
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I don't think anyone is disputing that. The issue is that the 1080 isn't a direct replacement for the 980Ti. It's the descendant of the 980.

Even at launch, the 980 was nowhere near 1080 pricing. We're seeing a steady rise on pricing generation after generation. We now know first hand how it feels to be a dairy cow :)
 
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