Republic protesters, held for 16 hours, before the coronation, despite engagement with the Met for four months over the group's protest plan. Some moments before the procession left Buckingham Palace. It was clearly planned. Met didn't want to risk it.
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The saying, Better to ask for forgiveness than permission, comes to mind. Probably the plan all along.Met admit they ****** up.
Metropolitan Police expresses 'regret' over arrest of anti-monarchy group leader and five others before coronation
Republic leader Graham Smith has said protesters from the anti-monarchy group who were arrested in London have all been told no charges will be brought against them and has called for a "full inquiry" into who authorised the arrests.news.sky.com
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Rather problematic considering they operate by consent in this country.
At least it keeps them largely pre-occupied in a single place and that's probably a good thing and why SC is a vacuous echo chamber.
We have some great discussions in work, all quite amicable and a very diverse range of views, the Monarchy being one, although most that don't see the point in it from a traditions and historical point of view can at least see the positive impact it has on the UK as a 'brand' and seem happy to live and let live, they would most certainly vote to not keep the monarchy should it be a referendum but also wouldn't vote specifically for a party just because they had it on their manifesto.. We don't actually have any people virtuously pro-monarchy, most of us don't mind it, the pomp/ceremony and positive UK image it brings and whilst there aren't too many studies done on the value they bring to the UK vs what they cost, Brand Finance did one in 2017 and it was £1.77bn generated vs £345m spent and the Monarchy seen as large a brand as the Pope and therefore quite unique. so plenty to discuss and weigh up and alternate financials to be sought etc..
I can't comprehend the vitriol against the monarchy, but happy that people should be allowed to air those views and opinions and am on the fence about the polices' behaviour, I would like to have their sources and threat assessment reviewed, although for such a large organised state event with unprecedented security, then I am not that stupid I can't see a difference between this and what would be deemed a normal protest under any other normal circumstances.
But we live in a black and white world, context means nothing to peoples arguments (on both sides) and lines seemingly must be drawn.. it's like watching football team hooliganism spill over to normal society.
Yep, took the bunting down yesterday, and not a hint of it this morning in work..
supposedly the arresting police didn't even recognise the protest leader, so, it was an impartial arrest - could you pick him out of a line-up
Bunting needs to be kept for eurovsion spectacle , JS seems to have palettes of proseco/pims/corona so I guess that the visionphile's tipple, or, something to numb the pain.
Bunting needs to be kept for eurovsion spectacle , JS seems to have palettes of proseco/pims/corona so I guess that the visionphile's tipple, or, something to numb the pain.
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Forums are only as good as the people who take time to post in them. Not really related to the OP but at least some of this is on us.At least it keeps them largely pre-occupied in a single place and that's probably a good thing and why SC is a vacuous echo chamber.
We have some great discussions in work, all quite amicable and a very diverse range of views, the Monarchy being one, although most that don't see the point in it from a traditions and historical point of view can at least see the positive impact it has on the UK as a 'brand' and seem happy to live and let live, they would most certainly vote to not keep the monarchy should it be a referendum but also wouldn't vote specifically for a party just because they had it on their manifesto.. We don't actually have any people virtuously pro-monarchy, most of us don't mind it, the pomp/ceremony and positive UK image it brings and whilst there aren't too many studies done on the value they bring to the UK vs what they cost, Brand Finance did one in 2017 and it was £1.77bn generated vs £345m spent and the Monarchy seen as large a brand as the Pope and therefore quite unique. so plenty to discuss and weigh up and alternate financials to be sought etc..
I can't comprehend the vitriol against the monarchy, but happy that people should be allowed to air those views and opinions and am on the fence about the polices' behaviour, I would like to have their sources and threat assessment reviewed, although for such a large organised state event with unprecedented security, then I am not that stupid I can't see a difference between this and what would be deemed a normal protest under any other normal circumstances.
But we live in a black and white world, context means nothing to peoples arguments (on both sides) and lines seemingly must be drawn.. it's like watching football team hooliganism spill over to normal society.
Yep, took the bunting down yesterday, and not a hint of it this morning in work..
New Piers take down of Harry - he's the privacy invader,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001lts2/amol-rajan-interviews-piers-morgan 31:00
Piers doesn't need a ghostwriter
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001lts2/amol-rajan-interviews-piers-morgan 31:00
Piers doesn't need a ghostwriter
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At least it keeps them largely pre-occupied in a single place and that's probably a good thing and why SC is a vacuous echo chamber.
We have some great discussions in work, all quite amicable and a very diverse range of views, the Monarchy being one, although most that don't see the point in it from a traditions and historical point of view can at least see the positive impact it has on the UK as a 'brand' and seem happy to live and let live, they would most certainly vote to not keep the monarchy should it be a referendum but also wouldn't vote specifically for a party just because they had it on their manifesto.. We don't actually have any people virtuously pro-monarchy, most of us don't mind it, the pomp/ceremony and positive UK image it brings and whilst there aren't too many studies done on the value they bring to the UK vs what they cost, Brand Finance did one in 2017 and it was £1.77bn generated vs £345m spent and the Monarchy seen as large a brand as the Pope and therefore quite unique. so plenty to discuss and weigh up and alternate financials to be sought etc..
I can't comprehend the vitriol against the monarchy, but happy that people should be allowed to air those views and opinions and am on the fence about the polices' behaviour, I would like to have their sources and threat assessment reviewed, although for such a large organised state event with unprecedented security, then I am not that stupid I can't see a difference between this and what would be deemed a normal protest under any other normal circumstances.
But we live in a black and white world, context means nothing to peoples arguments (on both sides) and lines seemingly must be drawn.. it's like watching football team hooliganism spill over to normal society.
Yep, took the bunting down yesterday, and not a hint of it this morning in work..
How amazing. A diverse range of views where everyone agrees with your opinion the royals are good for the country. There is another term for that and its called an echo chamber. How dare people here have an opposing view to yours.
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Clearly a glitch in the matrix.
A lot of people in the discussion openly said they'd vote against having a monarchy should that be put to a public vote and lots of discussion over the financials and how much they bring in, and is it fair to count their contributions etc, in fact the only thing actually agreed was it wasn't an existential crisis.
I'd throw that back at you, only in a vapid echo chamber would you start harbouring illogical vitriolic emotional views.
Only in an echo chamber?
Nah man, those are just natural human behaviours and no amount of idealism is going to stop it.
Well I guess if we say on the entire Spectrum of human behaviour, being irrationally emotional about a subject leading to blinkered vitriolic views and behaviours will exist naturally. thats technically true, but I'd expect that to be an outlier.. most seem indoctrinated to get to that state and a vapid echo chamber is precisely the place to do that..
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Including the Archbishop of Canterbury who got an inflated ego from the coronation and is spending the week flexing in the House of Lords.
I'll be honest, not a fan of monarchic institutions and positions held by birth alone, especially when it includes a Prince who paid a woman £12 million (iirc) because she said something he said he didn't do.... (?!?)
That said I'm less in favour of a referendum being run for things when you have no idea what the alternative is. Blind voting is probably more damaging to democracy than an outdated monarchy.
In which case I can't see it changing much before I'm in the ground. In the interim a culling of the Royals down to the bare minimum would be a start.
Completely agree, also I found it amusing in the other thread about those being arrested even though they haven't committed a crime yet. Yet they'd the same people bleating about where was the police when a terrorist attack happens because planning it isn't some sort of crime. It was very clear what the paint and rape whistles were for and anyone who argues the opposite are dumber than a bag of bricks.
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Echo chambers are really just communities of like-minded individuals, there is almost nothing special about what's going on today that wasn't true 50 or 500 years ago except that the internet has made borders an irrelevance in terms of connecting people who otherwise would probably not bother questioning their identity too much for fear of ostracisation.
What may have been a bulk largely moving in one direction is now a chaotic mess which will take time to adjust to if at all.
Over the years I've seen a lot of talk about echo chambers, so much so that I sometimes feel I'm in an echo chamber of echo chambers.
A bit like looking into a mirror facing a mirror.
I've now confused myself for the day. My work is done.
A bit like looking into a mirror facing a mirror.
I've now confused myself for the day. My work is done.