Win8 Tablets

The papers have been bigging up tablets last few weeks, all they're mentioning is the iPads and Androids. Not a mention of Windows ones, you wouldnt even know they existed. Was reading in the paper today theres been a huge surge in demand this Christmas, iPad minis and Nexus' are selling out as soon as places get stock, and that they are selling 100's of pounds over retail price. Whilst all Windows has out is the Surface RT, its like a midget lost in the crowd at a gig.
 
Yep shambles.
Trouble is there's no windows tablets in stores to go play with, which means lack of reporting on such devices as well.

This is the period they should be selling, yet nothing.
 
Yep shambles.
Trouble is there's no windows tablets in stores to go play with, which means lack of reporting on such devices as well.

This is the period they should be selling, yet nothing.

And guess what will happen. They will all properly launch in February, a lot of people will have got tablets for christmas, hardly anyone will buy them and then the OEMs will cry that there's no demand for Windows tablets.
 
Well, I popped in to JL in Reading today and amazingly, they had some Win8 tablets in. Both Samsung.
The Ativ Pc with the Atom CPU and the Ativ Tab.
The Ativ PC looks pretty good to me. Price is too high though at £750 with the keyboard.
The Ativ Tab is stupidly expensive next to the Surface RT which they are also selling. It was £550 without keyboard for the 32GB one. Yes, it has a better SoC than Surface but £150 more? I don't think they'll sell many of those.
 
Why can't Ms offer an atom surface. It stacks up might well vs the arm especially on battery life.
Especially as acer has a marginally smaller battery.
31.5 compared to 27 watt hours.


would have been nice if they compared it to the asus snapdragon tablet.
The surface with the kickstand and keyboard, is just such a better deisgn.
 
Should have launched X86 with Atom as standard as opposed to this Tegra crap, 400 quid for Surface would have been more than reasonable then.

I'm against tegra due to the price point.
 
Much as I'm a huge fan of ARM, I can't see Windows RT devices existing this time next year. Atom may be pants in terms of compute-power/Watt but there's a very compelling argument for low-power, Windows slates that can run all of your desktop apps too.
I think MS should have released Surface as an Atom device rather than an ARM one.

However, when development of Surface started, Atom CPUs were just awful in comparison to the power envelope of ARM designs so you can kind of see where MS were going and why they went down the RT route.
 
Allthough that's true, I think public opinion will not only mean arm survives on win8 but will be one of the biggest tablet sectors on win8.
Public opinion is a big thing and all iPads/androids are arm and thus arms the best.
 
Allthough that's true, I think public opinion will not only mean arm survives on win8 but will be one of the biggest tablet sectors on win8.
Public opinion is a big thing and all iPads/androids are arm and thus arms the best.

Personally, I don't think that the public know or care what CPU is in their tablet.
 
The thing with the Atom and future Intel chips is that we're assuming they're going to match whatever ARM bring out, and that's a pretty big assumption.

If ARM have something that completely whips Intel on power consumption then personally I'd take the extra battery life over x86 compatibility.

The good thing is we have the choice.
 
The thing with the Atom and future Intel chips is that we're assuming they're going to match whatever ARM bring out, and that's a pretty big assumption.

If ARM have something that completely whips Intel on power consumption then personally I'd take the extra battery life over x86 compatibility.

The good thing is we have the choice.

yeah ARM could but you still cant run x86 programs on it and to me thats such a huge selling point of the atom processors.

With my samsung ativ I get a full day worth of usage out of it thats browsing the web using google chrome with a lot of flash and video heavy websites, reading comics using it as a remote for xbmc having itunes on in the backround and having it at a nice brightness.
Its impressive due to the fact I can run anything I run on my main machine (not games) without having to worry if there is a decent app in the store that can do what I need it to do
 
That will decrease with time and more and more apps come out and will be better designed and suited for such devices.
As well as few people caring about software compatability. Nearly everyone find iOS/android fine anyway. For general population, they are media devices.

Win8 tablets shine for corporate use and power users.
 
Why can't you run x86 on ARM? Surely processing power is processing power? Doesn't matter what wheels you have on your car, they'll still go round and round surely?
 
No,

It's lie have a 4 bolt hub and a 6 bolt hub, you can't attach that 6bolt wheel to a 4 bolt hub.

The way the chips run are different and as such the software needs to be programmed differently. Or more precisely the so needs to be programmed differently, which removes the support for existing windows software.
 
Rumours are acer are going to release a cheaper version of their win8 tablets in new year. Could be great if it could get down to say $250, have to wait and see, wonder if it'll be intel or arm.
 
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