Windermere sewage = sickening

[SpellowHouse]

I believe the problem is that the regulator is just not doing it's job.

What I don't understand is why this government just fails to take any action against greedy companies who are just ripping the public off.

These are core supply companies and should be forced to do things right. Instead this government just allows them to take, take, take with no investment. It's scandalous.

 

[Jono8]

I believe the problem is that the regulator is just not doing it's job.

What I don't understand is why this government just fails to take any action against greedy companies who are just ripping the public off.

These are core supply companies and should be forced to do things right. Instead this government just allows them to take, take, take with no investment. It's scandalous.

Because they are morons and still think unregulated capitalism and privatising all the essential services under that economic system is a good idea.

Well, either morons or they stand to benefit from it (so ********).

 

[Narj]

It's horrific that they can make such high profits, pay dividends and crazy exec salaries yet under
Perform so badly.

Utilities should be nationalised - it makes me angry that bosses and shareholders get rewarded for failure. Also when it all goes to pot, customers/taxpayers have to provide a bailout.

EDIT: IMO someone should be criminally liable for this level of negligence.

 

[Nutty667]

Hindsight

Selling off the UK's water to be run by private companies who only care about shareholder profits was ludicrous, despite the under-investment at the time.

Those companies started with zero debt, they now have debts of £60 billion combined.

In that time they have paid out £53 billion in Dividends.

How does that compute?

It's structural debt. The same way you can still spend money on a holiday while having a mortgage.

 

[redeye]

There were photos from various beaches around the UK the past weekend (weather was obviously nice and people went to the beach), and in every photo there were vast areas of clear sewage being discharged. I've been to many of those beaches decades ago a million times and never saw anything like that. It's honestly a joke. Theres an article in my local paper about various chalk streams (vital to UK wildlife and aquafers) having sewage discharged into them. Weather it's legal or not.. this all has to stop. We seem to have gone from a fairly decent place just over a decade ago to a complete farce now.

 

[adidan]

England’s water: the world’s piggy bank

England’s privatised water system is owned by funds, banks and billionaires across the world, as this country-by-country breakdown shows

www.theguardian.com

One researcher called it “an ATM for investors"

This is why it happens. For decades they've been used to drain money out of the system rather than do their job and invest enough back in.

 

[SonicSW20]

England’s water: the world’s piggy bank

England’s privatised water system is owned by funds, banks and billionaires across the world, as this country-by-country breakdown shows

www.theguardian.com

This is why it happens. For decades they've been used to drain money out of the system rather than do their job and invest enough back in.

Its also one of the reasons **** all will be done about it by government. Any significant action will tank these investments.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

The fact that storm water systems drain into sewage systems and thus all the rainfall goes into the sewage plant causing it to overflow is one of the most short-sighted design decisions in history, imho.

The issue is, you don’t know what the rain water has washed off, from land, as it enters into the drain.

 

[arknor]

It's horrific that they can make such high profits, pay dividends and crazy exec salaries yet under
Perform so badly.

seems like a purely corrupt business to me.
hows it allowed but fly tipping garden waste isn;t?

Fly tipping garden waste has almost no impact on the environment, but sewage permanently damages eco systems.

It;s like back in the victorian ages where factories just poured chemicals in the rivers all day long

 

[200sols]

The issue is, you don’t know what the rain water has washed off, from land, as it enters into the drain.

Not only what enters the drains, chemical and waste run off from intensive farming is a disaster for many rivers, the rise of massive industrial chicken farms is destroying parts of the Wye being a case in point. Attitudes really need to change but as ive said elsewhere, this country is world leading at destroying nature so its doubtful anything will change.

 

[arknor]

@200sols what waste comes from industrial chicken farms that runs off into the rivers?

All the chicken manure will be sold as pellets to gardeners surely?
they use loads of pest/bug sprays or?

 

[MikeTheNative]

It's Nirate isn't it?
There's a big problem with the River Wye where the run off causes massive algae blooms which I believe it feeds off.

 

[user_name]

There were photos from various beaches around the UK the past weekend (weather was obviously nice and people went to the beach), and in every photo there were vast areas of clear sewage being discharged. I've been to many of those beaches decades ago a million times and never saw anything like that.

That's just may rot which happens every year around this time

 

[200sols]

@200sols what waste comes from industrial chicken farms that runs off into the rivers?

All the chicken manure will be sold as pellets to gardeners surely?
they use loads of pest/bug sprays or?

The manure/excrement/effluent is being drained directly into the rivers.

e.g

Charles Watson, chair of River Action, the charity that obtained details of the advisory visits to free-range egg farms under freedom of information laws, said: “These documents show a large number of intensive egg production farms have been allowing the excrement of hundreds of thousands of chickens to run off, without any proper mitigation, straight into the river system.

Environment Agency accused of ‘scandalous neglect’ over chicken excrement entering River Wye

Charity says new evidence shows how poultry farms are draining excrement into river system

www.theguardian.com

But also when it is spread as manure on a widespread scale any rain then drains it into the river. Just the usual story of poor planning, neglect and people taking the ****.

 

[Freakbro]

@200sols what waste comes from industrial chicken farms that runs off into the rivers?

Chicken poo, it's high in phosphate as well as other nutrients.

Ironically it seems it's the banning of caged hens leading to a rise in free range chicken farms that has exacerbated the problem, as the poo is on the ground outside and when it rains it drains into the river.

 

[SonicSW20]

Meanwhile in Devon...

Devon residents urged to boil water after confirmed disease cases

Health bosses confirm 16 cases of a diarrhoea-type illness, with 70 more suspected.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[arknor]

Meanwhile in Devon...

Devon residents urged to boil water after confirmed disease cases

Health bosses confirm 16 cases of a diarrhoea-type illness, with 70 more suspected.

www.bbc.co.uk

literally going to be Delhi belly in the UK at the rate we are headed.

I wonder if most tourists are already drinking bottled water.

There's a polish, Ukrainian or whatever family near me and I often see one of their young lads struggling back from across the road with about 20 litres of bottled water

 

[Sinbad2000]

The issue is, you don’t know what the rain water has washed off, from land, as it enters into the drain.

If there was no drain, that water would enter the ecosystem anyway.
With a drain into a sewer, you're guaranteed to overflow your sewage system and put a whole lot of literal **** into rivers/sea.

 

[UTT]

This is despite the fact that more or less all new build housing now has separate drainage for foul and surface water

All surface has to be attenuated to regulate the flow rate to specific, manageable levels or preferably discharged in to a water course or soakaway on site meaning no surface water getting close to water co drains

Problem is lack of investment, existing WWTW haven't been expanded to cope with the increased housing its having to service. And plenty of cases of WWTW being sold off to developers to build on

 

[alchal]

It's horrific that they can make such high profits, pay dividends and crazy exec salaries yet under
Perform so badly.

Then get the taxpayers to pay to improve and construct infrastructure they should be taking care of etc.

Joke, yet our politicians don't care, let's see if labour are any different.