Windermere sewage = sickening

I’m all for free market, but national infrastructure should be exempt. There is absolutely 0 reason for water companies to be private other than as a conduit for corruption.
 
I think this sort of thing has always gone on but nobody used to get upset about it.

As a young kid back in the day I can remember going on holiday to Devon and swimming in the sea - toilet paper used to float by quite often - nobody seemed to care then.

Every beach seemed to have a sewage outlet pipe and there was always a small brown "stream" running down into the water.

Seem incredible to think about it now but as I say - nobody took any notice back then.
 
why do under 9s need sex education? you make it sound like a bad thing
At the risk of running this off topic, sex education at that age includes things like "bad touch" and other ways of giving young children the words they need to express sexual abuse that they might be suffering from.
Basically it's mainly "this shouldn't happen" sort of things, put in a way that young children can understand.

And a lot of survivors have said that if they'd known how to describe what was happening to them it could have prevented it going on a lot longer, as if you leave it until say they're 12 or 13 that's an unfortunately very large number of children that don't know how to tell people what has been going on (it's the same reason it's important to have proper sex education that isn't just "sex is bad" or "you shouldn't have sex until you're married otherwise you're dirty and wicked").
 
There was nothing like the amounts of algae, etc. back then compared to recent years though and while a different era reports of people getting sick due to were far less often.
There also weren't the sheer amount of people there either tourism has increased but facilities to deal with it havn't kept up same can be said for SE especially but the LD is uniquely popular with vacationers and second home owners in recent decades simply put the infrastructure is overwhelmed with the influx of summer visitors

I think this sort of thing has always gone on but nobody used to get upset about it.

As a young kid back in the day I can remember going on holiday to Devon and swimming in the sea - toilet paper used to float by quite often - nobody seemed to care then.

Every beach seemed to have a sewage outlet pipe and there was always a small brown "stream" running down into the water.

Seem incredible to think about it now but as I say - nobody took any notice back then.
The Lakes were never as bad as they are now they're green with algae because of the nutrient dump into the lake from the runoff and the sewage. Its not alone of course the river Wye which used to be famous for its salmon fly fishing mayflies and water crowfoot... all dead dying or gone.
 
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Why on earth are we allowing companies to dump raw sewage straight into a Unesco World Heritage site? This isn't just a small amount, the figures are quite frankly astounding. United Utilities allegedly pumped sewage into the lake for 10 hours at a rate of 500 litres per second! And this isn't the first time it's happened either.

It makes me sad and quite angry that this type of thing is going on in this day and age. I'm no expert, but surely there's got to be a better way of dealing with this **** than pumping it straight into a freshwater lake? :(

BBC news article
Why are they allowed to do it anywhere?
 
No one cares

I don't believe either main party will properly tackle this.

With climate change etc never more present as it is today, still we allow these companies to get away with this.

What can you do but vote for green party or something?
 
There also weren't the sheer amount of people there either tourism has increased but facilities to deal with it havn't kept up same can be said for SE especially but the LD is uniquely popular with vacationers and second home owners in recent decades simply put the infrastructure is overwhelmed with the influx of summer visitors


The Lakes were never as bad as they are now they're green with algae because of the nutrient dump into the lake from the runoff and the sewage. Its not alone of course the river Wye which used to be famous for its salmon fly fishing mayflies and water crowfoot... all dead dying or gone.

Only positive I can see is that we'll pay (humans) in time.

We are still dependent on nature for our food.

Every month there's a new scandal.


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On OCUK a few times the "the UK is overpopulated" debate has reared it's head.

If pumping sewage into our water ways is "the only way" then isn't this an argument for us being overpopulated? Or we aren't and we just allow corporate greed to run rife?
 
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cocaine, anti-depressants and contraceptive pills being found in our marine life :eek:

 
Nowhere else for it to go. Would you prefer it backs up in the sewage system and comes back out of your toilet?

Maybe if they had invested better in plant to do the job rather than paying out massive dividends whist also taking on massive amounts of debts, they would not need to do either of them?

Not like it is rare but something they do on a rather regularly.
 
I think this sort of thing has always gone on but nobody used to get upset about it.

As a young kid back in the day I can remember going on holiday to Devon and swimming in the sea - toilet paper used to float by quite often - nobody seemed to care then.

Every beach seemed to have a sewage outlet pipe and there was always a small brown "stream" running down into the water.

Seem incredible to think about it now but as I say - nobody took any notice back then.

We have all been controlled by propaganda going all the way back to early 20th. I think things were a lot worse in the 80's and 90's but all we had is 4 channels and it was easy to control and cover up dodgy doings.

In today's world people need to realise they cannot get away with it anymore.
 
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I’m all for free market, but national infrastructure should be exempt. There is absolutely 0 reason for water companies to be private other than as a conduit for corruption.
There is one really good reason, so they can run up monstrous debts that are paid out as dividends to share holders then go bust transferring the problem back to the public purse along with a 30 year gap in infrastructure investment. It is all the same keep the rich rich and the poor poor thing while transferring public money to private pockets. Privatising the water boards was an utter disgrace it isn’t even an open market!
 
I wonder if most tourists are already drinking bottled water.
Why just tourists? I wouldn't drink tap water here if you paid me. Never have and never will, thought it was common knowledge to not drink tap water in the UK.

I literally do not know one person that drinks water straight from the tap, absolutely disgusting. Either bottled, or filtered.
 
There is one really good reason, so they can run up monstrous debts that are paid out as dividends to share holders then go bust transferring the problem back to the public purse along with a 30 year gap in infrastructure investment. It is all the same keep the rich rich and the poor poor thing while transferring public money to private pockets. Privatising the water boards was an utter disgrace it isn’t even an open market!
Thing is investment was lacking pre privatisation, its roughly doubled since it happened. Also private companies raise debt or sell equity to fund investment upfront which is then recouped from the public. So while maybe it shouldn't be privatised its wrong to say there had been a 30 year investment gap.
 
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Thing is investment was lacking pre privatisation, it’s roughly doubled since it happened. Also private companies raise debt or sell equity to fund investment upfront which is then recouped from the public. So while maybe it shouldn't be privatised it’s wrong to say there had been a 30 year investment gap.
Call it 30 years of underinvestment then while the water companies raised massive debts and paid huge dividends all in the knowledge that if they screwed up the government would pick up the pieces (oh and the debt) the privatised water companies are bleeding the country dry for an essential resource it’s a joke.
 
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