Windows 10

asim18 said:
My word I stopped reading about here. Never read such naivety in my life lol have you been living under a rock for the past 2 years or something?

The whole world has been vocal as hell with the exponential increase in the amount as well as scope of data collection bought on through Windows 10, and you still somehow believe that Windows 10 does not collect exponentially more user data than any other operating system on the planet right now? This is unprecedented stuff. :eek:

Unbelievable. You can keep calling me names, lunatic, CT nut or whatever you want, as I said I've made my point and you've made yourself look like you haven't got a clue (to me at least) so good bye.
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I never said W10 wasn't collecting information. A lot of stuff in it won't work if it doesn't.

Your the one claiming that it's a NSA funded initiative to invade peoples privacy. Your the one claiming they will start paying for you to take Windows 10 after July 2016. Your the one claiming there is a data centre in Utah storing every locally stored file on your PC. Your the one claiming Windows is deliberately turning up your mic to listen in to all the conversations in your home. Your the one accusing anyone who doesn't think the same of being an NSA agent or a Microsoft employee. All with zero evidence at all.

So while you keep doing that, I will continue to call you a conspiracy theory lunatic.
 
Skeeter said:
Ha, thats funny!

This guy is spot on though:



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You say that but there was some uproar recently when MS pushed notifications that bypassed administrator settings on proper business versions of Windows in a domain environment snootily informing users that their system administrator had disabled the ability to perform upgrades/update to Windows 10.
 
Rroff said:
That is kind of ridiculous behaviour for an OS that you have to check in case its going to restart itself before doing tasks...
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yeh i dont understand the people that defend this so aggressively
we just want the option to control when updates and restarts happen without nagging, we are not asking that any option is taken away from the people who dont care about that control

im not convinced its just trolling from them and its very strange to me
its our pc we want to control it thx! ><

gpedit has stopped the auto download and restarts for me but it still nags me with an annoying popup that i HAVE to click about downloading new updates...still looking how to turn that off!

any help appreciated ty! :)
 
Mei said:
yeh i dont understand the people that defend this so aggressively
we just want the option to control when updates and restarts happen without nagging, we are not asking that any option is taken away from the people who dont care about that control

im not convinced its just trolling from them and its very strange to me
its our pc we want to control it thx! ><

gpedit has stopped the auto download and restarts for me but it still nags me with an annoying popup that i HAVE to click about downloading new updates...still looking how to turn that off!

any help appreciated ty! :)
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I've not found a way that does it well without other annoyances like being a chore to undo when you actually want to update.

It is a bit of an issue for me at the moment as it is effectively rendering my Windows 10 tablet useless as one of the connections I use a lot has a 20GB allowance and expensive per MB after that and doesn't show up in Windows 10 as a connection that can be set as metered and I can't use the GPEDIT way due to another issue.

Given you can effectively control it at your own pace with wifi metering they are just being unnecessarily awkward by not having the option as normal.

EDIT: It may be possible to force any connection to metered via registry settings - keep forgetting to look into that though even then it seems to be ignored for some updates and has some side effects with other online features.
 
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I've litterally never had an issue with auto updates on any of my machines, including a home server.

I'm not blindly defending it, I just don't see the issue.

I'm aware that I could have just got lucky, but I've enough volume and variety in the machines I've upgraded for that to be unlikely.
 
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Rroff said:
I've not found a way that does it well without other annoyances like being a chore to undo when you actually want to update.

It is a bit of an issue for me at the moment as it is effectively rendering my Windows 10 tablet useless as one of the connections I use a lot has a 20GB allowance and expensive per MB after that and doesn't show up in Windows 10 as a connection that can be set as metered and I can't use the GPEDIT way due to another issue.

Given you can effectively control it at your own pace with wifi metering they are just being unnecessarily awkward by not having the option as normal.

EDIT: It may be possible to force any connection to metered via registry settings - keep forgetting to look into that though even then it seems to be ignored for some updates and has some side effects with other online features.
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yeh the gpedit on previous pages stops the auto download for me but it does not stop the checks for updates that then results in a full screen popup asking for you to check them out that i have to then click(which will happen every day until i download them), this is on a enterprise version too! - its just madness to me

im currently looking for a gpedit setting i might of missed that stops it checking and nagging ><

i guess the other way is to force windowsupdate not to run thru regedit or something? tho i guess grabbing a 3rd party app is more advised than that

...sigh
 
A lot of the time it is a minor irritation at best in general use but there are some potential show stopping aspects if you aren't the average type of user - something MS seems to be caring less and less about.
 
14322 will not keep the time for me, either in auto or manual mode.

Apparently it's 2am atm. And that's the 5th time I've had to adjust it since it installed.
 
Skeeter said:
Ha, thats funny!

This guy is spot on though:

Why is a business using a non-enterprise version of windows that pulls its updates directly from the internet?
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:p
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We use WSUS to force updates and one of ours laptops (on 7 Enterprise) still tried to force the upgrade on the user - indeed it was half-way through the checking process before I stopped it, and it hasn't appeared since. :confused:
 
So Microsoft have decided to force Cortana in Windows 10 to only work with Bing and Edge.

I get the concept, using tools they own they can make the integration better, but the problem is both Edge and Bing are crap.

I guess I will just continue to never use Cortana then :p
 
I don't understand the mentality - there are so many features like that in 10 that could be great (though Cortana isn't for me) if they just loosened their grip a bit and went for a flexible approach over forcing it down a specific route of usage.
 
Cortana is a bit different though. For it to work properly it needs to integrate with your search history, all the other browsing stats you generate and other things. Microsoft only has access to that from their own browser and search engine.

OK Google only works with Google search for the same reason. There's no issue with that though as Google search is actually good.
 
Oh ffs I thought the expanded all apps on the start menu in 14328 onwards was a bug... are MS ******* stupid I don't want it expanded all the time and seems no option to have it back like it was...

I know its technically work in progress and all that but it then makes the start button (on the start menu) kind of silly as it just expands to show labels that you can see by hovering over the items any how.

EDIT: Oh wow some of the feedback rage on this one makes my comments look incredibly tame.
 
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Glaucus said:
But still totally wrong. It's a big improvement.
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Functionally in isolation its an improvement for what it does but the execution is poor - I'd be less bothered if it was something that you'd be able to configure to hide down the line but from comments it appears to be a permanent change without any options to configure it. I like and far from alone in it in having a start menu that is minimalistic and just exactly what I need where I need it with minimal intrusion over what I'm working on (which is why I don't like the start screen) and this change has a significant impact on that.
 
whenever ive used bing its taken me longer to find what i want
seems like it makes cortana less useful until they fix that
personally i would only use cortana if driving or something
 
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