Windows 10

Trifid · 21 Jun 2015 at 18:43

V F said:
What I find unreal is how all these years passed, this is still a mess from Microsoft when you compare it to Apple's simple licence. As well as obtaining the OS.

A windows licence is still cheaper then a whole new mac though...

pumaz · 21 Jun 2015 at 18:47

So most of us "enthusiasts" would still be better off buying a full Windows 10 license so we can guarantee being able to use it through motherboard upgrades etc.

At this point I'm going to wait and see if any good deals on full license versions happen as I'm always chopping and changing hardware!

Trifid · 21 Jun 2015 at 18:50

pumaz said:
So most of us "enthusiasts" would still be better off buying a full Windows 10 license so we can guarantee being able to use it through motherboard upgrades etc.

At this point I'm going to wait and see if any good deals on full license versions happen as I'm always chopping and changing hardware!

I'm thinking this too and install my w8 on a virtual machine and then upgrade that.

Phixsator · 21 Jun 2015 at 18:58

mctiny said:
Try settings/personalisation/colours or settings/personalisation/themes

tried that.. i can change color of a lot of things except the dreaded windows explorer.. Unless i use high contrast..but thats just b*tt ugly too.

MOOGLEYS · 21 Jun 2015 at 19:18

I'm really happy with this latest build. Not had any issues and everything is running really well....

silversurfer · 21 Jun 2015 at 19:37

I saw 8.1 on offer for 25 so effectively discounting w10 also. Do they allow hardware change on a license if you phone up

gareth170 · 21 Jun 2015 at 20:01

it seems Gabe Aul may of made a mistake, in saying windows insiders will get the final build and it'll "remain activated"

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/21/microsoft_backtracks_on_free_windows_10_upgrade_promise/

Glaucus · 21 Jun 2015 at 20:17

And yet, he's still posting the opposite on twitter
Good old Zac from WinBeta asking the question.

Destination · 21 Jun 2015 at 20:25

pumaz said:
So most of us "enthusiasts" would still be better off buying a full Windows 10 license so we can guarantee being able to use it through motherboard upgrades etc.

At this point I'm going to wait and see if any good deals on full license versions happen as I'm always chopping and changing hardware!

I don't think they are going to offer this style of license, I think they will offer 'lifetime of the device' upgrades. Meaning everything is linked to a MoBo.
They've used the phrase 'lifetime of a device' over and over and over, and historically took the motherboard to be the device.

gareth170 · 21 Jun 2015 at 20:26

Glaucus said:
And yet, he's still posting the opposite on twitter
Good old Zac from WinBeta asking the question.

it seems at MS one saying one thing and another says something different which confuses things.

gareth170 · 21 Jun 2015 at 20:35

Hikari Kisugi said:
I don't think they are going to offer this style of license, I think they will offer 'lifetime of the device' upgrades. Meaning everything is linked to a MoBo.
They've used the phrase 'lifetime of a device' over and over and over, and historically took the motherboard to be the device.

thats only to the free offer.

they are going to sell win 10 retail which will be 149$ for home and 199$ for pro, they also be selling oem at a lower price

LiGhTfasT · 21 Jun 2015 at 20:54

Well just installed win 10 preview on my PC / laptops. Cant argue at free update to RTM, seen a few bugs already but no deal breaker.

Wasnt sure how it would work so used the misses MSA and a spare just incase they only allow 1 key.

Skeeter · 21 Jun 2015 at 21:28

gareth170 said:
it seems Gabe Aul may of made a mistake, in saying windows insiders will get the final build and it'll "remain activated"

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/21/microsoft_backtracks_on_free_windows_10_upgrade_promise/

This aligns with his original statements about only those who updated a 7/8.1 install to 10 through Windows Update getting the upgrade to (an activated) RTM release. Presumably by using the underlying 7/8.1 key underneath.

mikeo · 21 Jun 2015 at 21:29

So... several weeks on and still clear as mud

Got to laugh

Glaucus · 21 Jun 2015 at 21:31

I'm going with we can upgrade as that's still what he's saying in twitter.

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microso...nsiders?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

So in essence, Microsoft is turning a blind eye to Insiders looking for an activated, free copy of the Windows 10 RTM, however their public message will continue to be 'You need a valid Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 license to upgrade.' This is great news for those who installed the preview over their old Windows installs, so you will not need to downgrade before upgrading to Windows 10. Hooray!

gareth170 · 21 Jun 2015 at 21:51

i just noticed this. worth £99.99, which im guessing thats around orm price of win10

Montala · 21 Jun 2015 at 22:37

gareth170 said:
i just noticed this. worth £99.99, which im guessing thats around orm price of win10

The 'small print' does say "Estimated retail price of Windows 10 Home full licence: actual prices may vary."

gareth170 · 21 Jun 2015 at 23:00

Montala said:
The 'small print' does say "Estimated retail price of Windows 10 Home full licence: actual prices may vary."

well spoted m8, i didn't see that, but does that full license mean retail or it could mean full license of oem.

win8.1 retail is £99.99, so going by that they are giving everybody full retail licenses

Skeeter · 21 Jun 2015 at 23:27

Full means not an Upgrade.

Nothing to do with OEM or Retail.

gareth170 · 21 Jun 2015 at 23:31

Skeeter said:
Full means not an Upgrade.

Nothing to do with OEM or Retail.

going on price win8.1 retail is £99.99, which will be win10 home.