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P4Clock said:
Why are they pushing it so hard. i mean it free so there getting what?
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It's Microsoft vision to have every iteration of windows out there running in the same ecosystem.

I.e every tablet, phone, PC etc running win 10 and up.

The Applefication of Windows has begun.

They re now opening Apple type stores as well.

Not a bad thing. Just blatant copying.
 
Yeah i guess they figure the only way to take the market from apple is to give it away for free until everyone is hooked, a bit like some drug dealers :)

Is Cortana working for anyone in teh UK atm? im getting the msg not available to help in my region.
 
Isn't it more about getting everyone on the same platform to reduce the horrendous amount of work involved in supporting older versions some of which are hard to patch to up to date security standards? All that effort can be channelled into on version and make it safer.
 
prescott28 said:
Isn't it more about getting everyone on the same platform to reduce the horrendous amount of work involved in supporting older versions some of which are hard to patch to up to date security standards? All that effort can be channelled into on version and make it safer.
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That too, but also to switch business models to a more Google-like services model, (app store, cortana, etc), make it an ubiquitous OS across all devices, etc.
 
Glaucus said:
Ok not quite as bad as I thought. It'll be a recommended update, so it'll waist your hdd space and prompt you to install it.
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I thought it was already doing this? People have been crying about it using their bandwidth up since day 1.

It won't ever install automatically, but it will get to the stage of requiring literally 1 click.
 
Glaucus said:
Well that's going to annoy plenty of people. Starting in new year, if you have automatic update on, you'll get win10 installed for you.
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I doubt it would work if you have windows update set to download and not install updates (plus it would only do it for compatible computers).
 
MagicBoy said:
Please explain why you think the statement was stupid.
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For a start Apple desktop and Laptops run a completely different OS to their tablets and phones so saying Microsoft looking for a single OS across desktop, laptop, tablet and mobile is copying Apple is self evidently stupid. Do try to keep up.
 
From the original iPhone keynote :
"iPhone runs OS X!"

Huge cheers. "Why would we want to run such a sophisticated OS on a mobile device? It's got everything we need. Multitasking, networking, power management, graphics, security, video, graphics, audio core animation..."

For reference : I don't appreciate your tone. Also this is a Windows 10 thread, if you want a fight about iOS vs OS X I suggest you head over to the Apple subforum.
 
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Iphone doesn't run osx. It never has. iOS is not OSX.

Apple might have claimed differently when they announced the iPhone but that's a different discussion and it does not in any single way mean Microsoft are copying apple.
 
But there is a great deal of .. Well, perhaps not confusion in IOS/OSX, but certainly, an expectancy that they are oen in the same maybe?

They way that Apple have closed in and trapped their users into forcing them to adopt the apple way, does make it feel like it.

I mean, when you consider that the ipad and the mac laptops, to the ignorant layman, are basically the same thing, as if one has a keyboard, the other does not.

Then it is easy to see how people would think the same.

But no, MS are not at all copying them. If anything, they have gone the opposite way..
 
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iOS and OSX aren't remotely the same. They might have similar looking features in places but that's it.

What Microsoft is doing is creating a single platform. One you can write an app and all devices on the platform will run it with little / no modification required, which can sync your notifications and apps across your devices etc.

Apple aren't doing that. They aren't remotely close to it. So is Microsoft copying Apple by creating a single platform?

No, don't be daft. But if you class wanting to improve the user experience as copying apple then we are all doomed I guess.
 
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If anything, Apple has taken it's cue from Linux which had a digital software repository before any of them. Apple popularised the notion of an App Store and the rest followed suit with the same kind of business model of making money from developers wanting to distribute through the respective in-house app marketplace. The main difference being Android achieved domination due to an inexpensive OS and I assume less greedy commission from developers.
 
MagicBoy said:
So Apple are lying? It's plain as day in the second link.

"iPhone uses OS X, the world’s most advanced operating system."
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Apple lied 8 years ago, yes. Well, let's call it a massive bending of the truth....
http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...macos-x-applications-skype-or-ipod-games.html

Not surprisingly, given that Steve Jobs said the iPhone "runs OS X" and "these are real desktop applications", many immediately thought that the iPhone was able to run Mac OS X desktop applications like Skype and Photoshop. However, the rather sparse original iPhone technical specifications page on the Apple website noted that the iPhone does in fact run "OS X" as Jobs proclaimed during the keynote, but it does not run Mac OS X.

Essentially, the iPhone runs a scaled down version of Mac OS X optimized for a handheld device -- although Steve Jobs was insistent that it runs "real OS X" (Specifically, crashlogs indicate that the original iPhone ran "OS X 1.0" build number 1A543a.) -- but no iPhone models can run Mac OS X applications regardless. On March 17, 2009, upon unveiling a developer's preview of the third version of the operating system, Apple started referring to it as the "iPhone OS" and on June 7, 2010, the company again changed the name to just "iOS".
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Can't believe we're having this discussion.....
 
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MagicBoy said:
Don't worry, I'm done.
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So you should be with your crazy talk...

Interestingly rumours seem to suggest Google are going to give up on ChromeOS and fold it into Android following Microsoft lead for a single OS. Having practically given up on OSX of late I'm not sure where Apple goes with this without either alienating hordes of "Mac" or "iThing" fans in the process.
 
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