Windows 10
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No its not. Your misunderstanding. Being in an unsupported state doesn't mean you can't upgrade from that state.
If someone uses online components then sure they'd have to update but they'd accept that and manually update as needed (for instance things like cortana, cloud storage, etc. not going online generally).
For offline feature usage (this includes online use just not online Windows services) it doesn't make any odds if the PC is turned off or someone using it.
I don't see the problem.
For offline feature usage (this includes online use just not online Windows services) it doesn't make any odds if the PC is turned off or someone using it.
I don't see the problem.
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Microsoft aren't building software just for you.
Its not "online components", its all software.
The benefit to having a lower limit of supported state applies to anyone writing anything that runs on Windows 10.
An OS is about enabling the user not forcing a one size fits all approach - that way leads to a declining user base and something MS really doesn't want or need.
Ok well feel free to come back when the Windows 10 user numbers start to decline then.
Oh I love the "I'm alright jack" attitude...
I think your just blinded by thinking that things that are massive issues to you are massive issues to everyone.
They just aren't.
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I think you are just blinded by a "Microsoft is always right" view.
No, an unscheduled reboot is not helpful. Yes, having more manual control is much better, especially in a "Professional" edition of Windows.
Only in your head is it just me - even in this section of the forum its not an infrequent topic and doesn't take much looking around other forums and google to see I'm far from alone on this.
I think you are just blinded by a "Microsoft is always right" view.
No, an unscheduled reboot is not helpful. Yes, having more manual control is much better, especially in a "Professional" edition of Windows.
At no point have I said Microsoft is always right.
I have a list of issues with Windows 10 thats as long as my arm!
But on the point of forced updates, I fully understand what they are for and why Microsoft does it.
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I do not see it as an issue if enabled by default, but an OS should enable users (as Rroff has said earlier in the thread) and therefore there should be an option to turn it off.
What are your issues with Windows 10, out of interest?
But as I've explained, what appears to be just a simple change in options fundamentally impacts the strategy Microsoft has adopted for Windows going forward. For Windows 10 to 'work' in the long term, they need to force people to keep updated.
Pff, where to start?
The utterly appalling ability to handle high DPI displays.
The back tracking on OneDrive integration from how it was used in the Previews
The removal of online only files in OneDrive
The forced updates on shutdown
Many things to do with the Start Menu
The task bar when using multiple monitors still lacks proper customization
The 101 different menu and button designs
Every single possible thing about the Windows Store
The tablet interface is a massive step back from W8.1
Etc...
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But they don't - they have to have some allowance for people lagging behind anyway and people lagging behind to an extent may have to accept that they will need to update for the best support, etc. but that is their choice to make (or should be).
Personally I stay fairly upto date but I just do it in a manner of my choosing with the least inconvenience to myself.
EDIT: End of the day the problem that at software level they can't be real life context aware is self evident - even with the addition of extra shutdown/restart options for updates the nature of Windows update is still problematic for mobile devices and those who spend any length of time on metered internet connections, the convoluted active hours implementation while having some useful functionality is also largely special casing for circumstances they can't control along with extra options for deferring updates, etc. at some point they have to face the reality of the fact they should re-examine their approach as the level of special casings is increasingly getting more and more silly.
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Hmm got a problem with the latest (insider) update on both installs I've updated to it where after about half an hour the start menu stops responding then rapidly goes through a bunch of random actions roughly associated with your mouse clicks/keys as you try to make it work about a minute later :|
My work laptop did that earlier today, and its on the public release.
Regarding metered connections, does Windows still download updates in the background? I don't use them much but I definitely remember seeing prompts about how things wouldn't download while on them.
Regarding metered connections, does Windows still download updates in the background? I don't use them much but I definitely remember seeing prompts about how things wouldn't download while on them.
It shouldn't do any downloading on a connection set to metered the problem is - atleast last I tried - you can only set wifi type connections to metered and my tethered connection shows upto the OS as a fixed connection even though it isn't so I couldn't set it metered.
EDIT: Nope can still only set wifi to metered and not connections that show as fixed adapters.
EDIT: Nope can still only set wifi to metered and not connections that show as fixed adapters.
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finger gesture coming to edge. why do ms keep removing features then bringing them back. anyway about time. I also hope at the same time they make the webpage jump up when keyboard pops up. metro IE was country miles ahead of any other tablet browser.
So my windows 10 **** itself tonight. Using it as normal and loaded a jpeg file from my phone to resize it in paint and my explorer crashes without error. Ctrlaltdel doesn't work either but I can still move my mouse and change tabs in chrome however it appears to have lost network connectivity so I do a hard reboot. Upon hard reboot Windows fails to launch and it is entirely ****ed, currently in the process of reinstalling all my OS again, gg Microsoft.