Windows 7 Impressions

toon_mad said:
i know vista is pretty much a flop, but why is the new win7 coming out so soon, is vista beyond getting patched with service packs? And is it true windows7 is built around quad core for faster performance?
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Windows was always on a ~3 year release cycle: e.g. 95, 98, 2001 (XP). Vista was horrifically late due to a few reasons, but a 7 release of 2009 is 3 years after Vista.
 
deadite66 said:
nope didn't remember for me also.
neither did the trick i used for vista with
Code: 
net use \\SAKURA\downloads password /USER:username
.bat file i added in startup.

ps. have you had any tdx.sys bsods?, i had to dump win7 due to it always crashing after connecting to a share.
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thanks - that is what i am trying now - do i just save these in notepad with a .bat extension and put this in the startup folder?
// actually using

NET USE X: \\servername\share /USER:domain\username password /persistent:yes

where X is the mapped drive letter - about to reboot to see if the persistent tag actually works //IT DOESN'T :(

and yes have had several of the tdx.sys BSODs (i have a asus p5q pro mobo and am using the vista network drivers off the install cd in compatibilty mode)
 
well i listened to Tom's advice and did a clean install.

Did my install from a USB stick and all was done in about 15 mins :)

Too early yet for my impressions but will see how it goes.
 
toon_mad said:
i know vista is pretty much a flop, but why is the new win7 coming out so soon, is vista beyond getting patched with service packs? And is it true windows7 is built around quad core for faster performance?
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Vista isn't a flop.

W7 is coming out 3 years later than Vista... which is the standard Windows release cycle really.

Vista will continue to receive service packs and hot fixes.

W7 is not "built around quad core". What on earth does that even mean? W7 has an almost identical kernel to Vista (around the region of 98% identical I would hazard a guess).
 
Does anyone else have an issue with start menu buttons. reinstalled a few games since I put windows 7 on, lotro, cod, couple others, their links, for new installed programs always appears at the top of the start menu but click on them and nothing happens, same from the game menu, nothing happens, while if I go into the folders in the start menu most programs will launch from there, but games won't. So I'm having to go to game folders and stick a shortcut on desktop.

So, just me, or known problem with a fix I haven't spotted yet?
 
if you have a asus p5q pro and are having issues with installing the LAN driver or are having tdx.sys issues try using the driver listed below rather than the one supplied on the motherboard install cd

http://www.techspot.com/drivers/driver/file/information/11166/

unrar, rt click and select vista compatibilty mode and then run as administrator 'setup.exe'

seems to have sorted a few issues for me
//edit well not all of them :( still having very frequent tdx.sys BSODS and think i will need to try a different network card . however the onboard LAN is not running at full 10/100/1000 speed which i couldn't seem to get it to do before updating the driver. ho hum.

//looks like i have found out my tdx.sys problem - i have uninstalled the eset security suite 3.something i had installed and all the crashes have stopped. using the free avira antivrus instead. crosses fingers.....
 
nolimit said:
I think it is a flop considering how long it took Micrsoft to develop, and you would have thought it would have lasted 5-6 years before they released another OS.
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ERrm, MS make no money supporting old software, or relatively little, they make money, releasing new software. All software people do, the goal of any company, especially a one with basically a monopoly on the market, is to release as many damn software releases as possible as each new one generates.......... money.

A failure is an OS that lasts too long in that sense. XP was a failure in terms of profitability, it was too good, lasted too long and the big changes for vista took too long to make.

Vista was fine frankly, it might be a little to enthusiastic shall we say, in terms of prefetching data for cache, but its a good solid OS, and for me even though XP was great and very stable compared to old OS's, Vista was still the next level up of stability and thats even with a lot of duff drivers about for a long time.

Its biggest failure is people complaining about memory usage, which mostly was just cache issues and is similar to most other OS's. Vista "appeared" to use more memory than XP, which is does a little but most of the overhead was cache rather than wasted and is the same way OSX and other os's handle memory. XP simply wastes stuff there to be used and it uses power either way. The higher memory usage is mostly what people would use as an excuse for why it sucks and needs a better system, etc, etc, etc.

In reality I've seen systems with Vista crawl, and I've seen systems with XP crawl, its more about user and stupid crap installed than either OS tbh. Both will run on very very old systems just fine. Both running smoother and quicker with certain things removed/disabled, Windows 7 will run smoother with things disabled, thats life.

The one thing MS really need to do is ditch the 32bit OS's, no one needs it anymore, and lack of it will push people to do better with 64bit drivers and half the work needed to support a new OS, which will make dev's more likely to support it quicker. I don't think a chip in what, 5 years has been made that can't run 64bit so at this point they just need to kill 32bit, it will make everyones lives so much easier.
 
nolimit said:
I think it is a flop considering how long it took Micrsoft to develop, and you would have thought it would have lasted 5-6 years before they released another OS.
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And you're happy having to run a 5-6 year old OS on up-to-date hardware?

5 years is a lifetime in the world of computers.
 
Im not happy or sad about XP, it is sufficient for my my needs. I know 5 years is lifetime for most technology.

I was only stating the fact that MS had 5-6 years to improve the XP but didn't do a great job.
 
Im using the Windows 7 Beta and Ive been using Vista since launch and using XP nowadays seems stupid for my own needs... just missing the odd feature here and there which makes a difference.

Plus, it looks sooo retro nowadays without modding the **** off it.
 
ok, windows7 seemed quick, i only got vista last year maybe thats why.

And what i meant about been built around quad core i should have rephrased it, i was told it is more effecient with multi core systems for copying files etc
 
nolimit said:
I was only stating the fact that MS had 5-6 years to improve the XP but didn't do a great job.
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They spent a lot of this time fixing XP - remember Blaster? SP2 was a *huge* update for XP to correct a lot of security issues and add quite a bit of functionality. It was essentially XP Release 2, but MS never charged for it.
 
got everything working now, done as someone else suggested and pointed it towards drivers on vista hdd, on p5q pro btw.
pretty impressed with it now everything is working, not had any problems as of yet, somethings nicer than vista some not.
but like others will give it a chance first and tell later.
 
Been playing around with Windows 7 for the last week.

Seems pretty good tbh. Nice operating system with some very nicely thought out touches. Seems like MS could be back on track with a worthy rival to Snow Leopard.
 
if i end up moving to this in the future, i hope its better for compatibility then vista, which is why i like xp - you can pretty much run anything on it
 
DF1986 said:
So far ive seen W7 on my bro's comp aint tried on mine but it will be some year's before i move away from vista, W7 has impressed me a lot less than the vista beta a while back :( and im not too keen on the new 7.9 scoring system either i imagine my system in sig will do ok but i thought my bro's i7 tri sli rig would have done fantastically, but it didnt, hopefully its a driver/update issue.
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Don't forget this is a beta..this won't be out til at least Q4 09 or even Q1 10 so this scoring system isn't set up for 'now'..by the time this OS is out the tri sli cards will be old hat and that's what the scoring system is based on (Q4 09 or even Q1 10).:cool:
 
if i end up moving to this in the future, i hope its better for compatibility then vista, which is why i like xp - you can pretty much run anything on it
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Compatability with what?

W7 won't be any more compatible than Vista is (I presume your talking about software here?)

It may have a load more out of box drivers I would think but Vista doesn't really have many major driver problems.
 
If anyone else was having problems installing the ATI drivers, you need to remove all entries in the registry for anything related to ATI. Using just driver cleaner software didn't work alone.

All working now :)
 
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