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NathanE said:
This is true. There are far more worthy areas of Vista for an "XP fan" to attack. The Control Panel for instance is a complete abortion.

Superfetch is one of its trick cards and anyone that slates it either looks incredibly naive or just foolish.
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Oh I agree - there are umpteen areas where Vista is demonstrably worse than XP.

I just get brought back into the Superfetch argument because I am astonished at how certain people think it is doing something miraculous, indeed impossible - namely actually loading stuff quicker from a cold boot than XP does (without Readyboost). Amazing.
 
dirtydog said:
Superfetch only works well if you have ReadyBoost and a huge amount of RAM, 4 gigs or more. Even then it 'guesses' what apps to prefetch, and sometimes gets it horribly wrong.
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That is, quite simply, wrong.

Every machine we have at work save for 2 (which have more) has 2GB of RAM, and most of that RAM is doing nothing. The only issue people run into is when starting Virtual Machines it complains that there isn't enough RAM to start, as it takes a second for all the RAM to be released.
 
dirtydog said:
I just get brought back into the Superfetch argument because I am astonished at how certain people think it is doing something miraculous, indeed impossible - namely actually loading stuff quicker from a cold boot than XP does (without Readyboost). Amazing.
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That is just trolling now and you know it.
 
vista is an abomination, i paid good money for that crap, and have always gone back to xp again and again, for many reasons
i hope this next one is better

seduced by dx10, and with vista 64 the benefits of 4gb ram--yawn
some ****** owes me some money, not to mention buying a dx10 card, yet more money thrown down the drain
 
for those of you who have a vista beta or rc1 key if you didnt know it works with windows 7 and allows you to activate it. It expires on the 30th aug next year though
 
meghatronic said:
Now it electrocutes you.
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:D:D

vintage-x said:
ive only seen it pop up a couple of times when I was installing itunes and ati drivers
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Hi vintage-x, thanks for responding. How about the available options to customize User Account Control? Is it similar or the same to what is shown below?

User Account Control improvements. Windows Vista's most reviled feature is being completely overhauled to be more customizable. Four settings will be available:

1. Never notify (least secure). The user is not notified when a program tries to install software or make changes to the computer. The user is not notified when they make changes to Windows settings or when programs try to do so.

2. Only notify me when programs try to make changes to my computer. The user is not notified when a program tries to install software or make changes to the computer. The user is not notified when they make changes to Windows settings. However, the user is notified when programs try to make changes to the computer, including Windows settings.

3. Always notify me. The user is notified when a program tries to install software or make changes to the computer. The user is also notified when they make changes to Windows settings or when programs try to do so.

4. Always notify me and wait for my response (most secure). The user is notified when a program tries to install software or make changes to the computer. The user is also notified when they make changes to Windows settings or when programs try to do so.
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Source - Here
 
If it's done properly, then I think it's a good thing to make the distinction between actions initiated by the user and those initiated by a program. Should hopefully stop UAC annoying people into turning it off completely, whilst still retaining most of the security benefits.

I'm not sure about the options to no longer require a response, though. Surely if a nasty program is making changes to your computer, you want to be able to intercept it before it does so, not just be informed afterwards! Though I suppose anything is better than having it turned off.

I presume the default setting will be 'always notify and wait'?
 
it is the same i have it set to default which only notifys me when a program trys to change windows settings ie driver installs.

unlike vista the when it pops up you can still do other things if you get what I mean
 
well i dont have problems with Vista 64 since it was release - it still depend on people PC or laptop hardware to run under Vista plus install add softwares -- I still dont have any hiccup as it still working all way - so I wait few more months after Win 7 release cos it still same as Vista with core kernel - just wee change like add features, sort out hardwares problems, redesigned,etc.. but still using NT 6.1 not NT 7.. find out when it come out.

one my old software Pro Golf Championship 2000 which use for 95/98 and XP that still work prefect under Vista 64 but trick is install 2nd hard drive intead on 1st drive without pop up UAC or admin that how it work prefect same as 3D Pinball Thrillride as well -- Vista still get SP2 before or after Win 7.
 
vintage-x said:
unlike vista the when it pops up you can still do other things if you get what I mean
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That's interesting. The point of the Vista UAC prompts taking over the desktop was that no rogue applications could imitate them. Wonder how MS have found a way round that?

braveheart said:
one my old software Pro Golf Championship 2000 which use for 95/98 and XP that still work prefect under Vista 64 but trick is install 2nd hard drive intead on 1st drive without pop up UAC or admin that how it work prefect same as 3D Pinball Thrillride as well -- Vista still get SP2 before or after Win 7.
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Your problem there is most likely that Vista with UAC doesn't allow programs to write to the default Program Files folder, which many old programs do. If you wanted, you could install to C:\Games or something and it'd work.
 
Mattus said:
That's interesting. The point of the Vista UAC prompts taking over the desktop was that no rogue applications could imitate them. Wonder how MS have found a way round that?



Your problem there is most likely that Vista with UAC doesn't allow programs to write to the default Program Files folder, which many old programs do. If you wanted, you could install to C:\Games or something and it'd work.
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So basically Vista dislikes programs which are packaged as proper portable apps that can still be run on a normal non portable setup.

Oh, and I dont see why people bitch about UAC, just disable it ...
 
rypt said:
So basically Vista dislikes programs which are packaged as proper portable apps that can still be run on a normal non portable setup.
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Not really... just don't install those apps to Program Files and you'll be fine.

MS's guidelines are that apps should write data to the user folders rather than to Program Files. It's been like that for ages, so the only apps which will give you problems are those that are either really old or just badly designed.
 
Mattus said:
That's interesting. The point of the Vista UAC prompts taking over the desktop was that no rogue applications could imitate them. Wonder how MS have found a way round that?
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What I mean is that in vista if UAC popped up you couldnt do anything untill you pressed yes or no. The computer just froze whereas in windows 7 you can carry on doing what you want to do.

The program or whatever which set off UAC wont do anything untill you press ok or cancel
 
Right

Can I just say how impresed I am with this.

Its seems everything that Vista should have been. Loving the library feature for document, Taskbar grouping is a great idea. Its very fast to install and somehow feels less bloated.

Vista drivers for my logitech mouse, worked out of the box. W00t w00t!!

This is looking good so far

sid
 
Windows 7 would be good to go already if Speedfan worked for it :(.

Cant work with Windows 7 when I've got a jumbo jet next to me, not a healthy working environment:(
 
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