Eh no Windows 7 just worked in the way that naturally works best for a lot of general desktop PC useage for the majority of people. Sure you can make Windows 8 do what you want but why bother when another OS does it better out the box without lots of tweaking?
Windows 8 Adoption Poor
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Eh no Windows 7 just worked in the way that naturally works best for a lot of general desktop PC useage for the majority of people. Sure you can make Windows 8 do what you want but why bother when another OS does it better out the box without lots of tweaking?
Soldato
You can imagine big companies with Maggie the 59 year old receptionist the IT manger looking at windows8 and saying,.......no chance!
It always needed a 'classic' theme/view/ version. Not everyone can adapt or want to if
It always needed a 'classic' theme/view/ version. Not everyone can adapt or want to if
Its not just about adapting tho - why adapt to a different way of doing something for the sake of it when another way works more naturally for you?
Soldato
The only problem with that attitude is that the beloved start menu wouldn't have been made if you only stuck with the status quo, we could still be using program manager.
Same with Office, I find the ribbon menu more user friendly than the old style menus and MS didn't give you an option to revert back to the old menus.
Caporegime
Too bad not more office environments using Linux.
My greatest fear is Microsoft won't make any new major changes due to fear and those that can't adapt to changes or things removed,progress will be slower then a snails pace.
I don't get your logic here.
Linux - vast choice, open and highly modifiable to someone's needs. Always changing.
Windows 8 - no choice, Microsoft bullying people into doing things their way.
You say giving people choice with windows will slow progress.
Say what?
Microsoft will still make changes, but they'll know if they introduce something that people don't want they should perhaps give them a choice rather than stripping out functionality and trying trying to force subpar alternatives.
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We have them in our office, a few weeks for those that where getting used to it, the rest of us ( designer's) got on okay, but learned new tips and tricks etc...
Reception's ladies we have..."ohhh..so just click on that desktop tile and its business as usual....."....
Dear lord...my Dad...81...still had it working....he figured it out himself....that's not to say we DONT get some questions about things, but relatively...its nothing like people like to make up.
Its not like your asking them to go from Windows to Mac OS, that's a change.
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The start menu style was a natural evolution towards the best way of doing things (for most people). Most other OSes infact adopted something similiar a long long time before Windows did i.e. RISC OS, IIRC the original Amiga OS was closer to Windows 8 style with tiles, etc. and moved towards something closer in style to Windows 7 a long time before Windows 7 even existed - I coded my own start menu/taskbar for Windows 3.11 long before Windows natively had anything similiar (as did several other 3rd party developers).
I'm all for choice as long as it dos not make the OS in question more bloated,what I'm saying is like to see some new UI changes/ improvements rather then going back to the old ways,move forward with progress not stay in the past and not change things.
As to Linux you are right always changing/evolving but when Microsoft change things in their latest OS ie Windows 8 you get people moaning.
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Soldato
Sounds like you work for a small company..... It would not and is not even considered in the place I work due to retraining requirements
Soldato
For me I just think we should have a choice and I welcome the change if true. Simple as that ..... That way its each to their own.... Everyone is happy
Seriously? Microsoft release a new OS that does things slightly different and you categorise that as bullying? Wow... Hyperbole much?
Now this is the bit I don't get so maybe I'm missing something. Assuming you don't use Metro apps in an enterprise, remove the built in apps and just use the start menu to pin the normal win32 apps users use on Win7 what retraining is required other than "the start looks like it's not there but it is really, just move your mouse to bottom left corner and a big screen will pop up with all your programs on it"?
If it was left to corporate IT we'd all still be using Netware & DOS
Caporegime
Microsoft set out to change their UI to ring touch friendly, it was widely criticised before the release and after, theyd pushed touch friendlyness over desktop friendlyness. People were using start8 etc to make it as functional as Win 7. All the functionality is in windows 8 to have the start menu type UI but Microsoft deliberately didn't allow this to be used natively. They strong armed their new UI with windows 8 despite objections and now it seems the suits have got involved to sort things out. Call it bullying or whatever you would prefer, it was a bad decision.
Soldato
Most people on this forum are males and tech savy ones at that. Its a different kettle of fish when you have a massive organisation and you have to offer retraining. If you are on windows 7 running a classic theme because you had the same issue when you migrated from xp... You are not gonna be to happy about win8!
I'm not bashing it. I'm saying I welcome the CHOICE and it will benefit Microsoft in the long run as companies will be able to intergrate without a retraining issue
I'm not bashing it. I'm saying I welcome the CHOICE and it will benefit Microsoft in the long run as companies will be able to intergrate without a retraining issue
who'd have thought giving people a choice would prove so unpopular. 
also, i do have a genuine question which i can't bothered to start a new thread for. how are windows store apps these days? has anything been developed that blows the android/iOS equivalent out of the water. i feel it is this and affordable hardware that will push windows 8/touch forward, not the OS itself.
also, i do have a genuine question which i can't bothered to start a new thread for. how are windows store apps these days? has anything been developed that blows the android/iOS equivalent out of the water. i feel it is this and affordable hardware that will push windows 8/touch forward, not the OS itself.
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who'd have thought giving people a choice would prove so unpopular.
18 years of the old start button around people are like borgs so assimilated they can't change
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Soldato
18 years of the old start button around people are like borgs so assimilated they can't change
You say that like all changes are good?
How would you feel if the UK government changed working hours to the night and sleep to the day?
18 years of a certain feature and then they remove it with some big fisher price button theme designed for tablets and say change is good?
Well for me change can be good but choice is always better
Then the cool kids like you are happy and the borgs like me can carry on functioning
Don't buy into all the hype son
Funnily enough people said much the same thing about the change from Windows 98/2000 to XP Luna UI
I'm still missing given the scenario I mentioned what the retraining required would be?