Windows 8 Adoption Poor

[gareth170]

Or if enough people voice the fact that the new UI is retarded and either don't upgrade to windows 8 or splash their cash on software to fix said retarded UI

but I really don't think that will happen. people are / will slowly coming round liking it. this happens with every new os, Some people moan about things then after awhile the moaning slowly dies away...

even if MS didn't change the UI there will still be people moaning about something else about the os... if MS listened to every single moan / mment there'll be no OS

MS may take the hint that people don't appreciate a UI that has been designed by an 8 year old.

it wasn't designed by an 8 year old. just because it's in a title / graphic format doesn't mean it was designed by an 8 year old. I much prefer a easy to use UI than a complex UI with little menus ect. you need to remember windows isn't designed just only for u.

 

[Elevon]

Or if enough people voice the fact that the new UI is retarded and either don't upgrade to windows 8 or splash their cash on software to fix said retarded UI - MS may take the hint that people don't appreciate a UI that has been designed by an 8 year old.

That will never happen since Mircosoft get most of their sales from OEM and average user going into a PC store ,they want things simple,end of the day Metro is workable just needs more customization and fine tuning IMHO.


I could also argue Windows has been simple for a long time compared to the old DOS days,now back then you needed certain upper memory,expanded memory etc... just to get games working,throw in assigning IRQs to sound cards etc and learning all the DOS commands,average user now would throw a fit lol....you DO have it easy and simple nowadays but people still moan .

 

[Macro]

What MS are doing for some reason is following apple. A new desktop\phone OS every year.

It's not really following Apple, the entire market has moved away from massive updates once every three or so years to incremental updates on a regular scheule. Just look at Android, Chrome, Firefox, Xbox, Unbuntu etc.

It's just not practical for Microsoft to only refresh every three years now, it leaves them looking like old tech and get accused of not innovating or evolving the platform in line with the market and technology changes.

Not everyone is going to be happy all the time, if you prefer Linux then you should use it, Unbuntu in particular is very usable. I don't think you're going to see many major game releases on Linux any time soon though steam or no, they've had steam for Mac for ages and it's still a tiny part of the market. Steam on Linux seems more about Valve/Gabe spitting the dummy when it looked like the Microsoft Store in Windows might eventually provide an alternate digital distribution method for games publishers in competition to Steam, I could be wrong though . With PC(windows), Xbox, Playstation, Wii, IOS & Android I really can't see a place for yet another gaming platform to succeed.

 

[troops]

For me win8 was a bit of a disappointment, they made say a classic version with no metro it would just be win7 se.
I use it on a laptop but think it is mainly geared towards touch screens but obviously not everyone has one.

 

[ubersonic]

Or if enough people voice the fact that the new UI is retarded and either don't upgrade to windows 8 or splash their cash on software to fix said retarded UI - MS may take the hint that people don't appreciate a UI that has been designed by an 8 year old.

Yes, its retarded that the new UI works better than the old one and lets you do everything either just as easily or even easier

I think its more likely it will go the other way, i.e people who use Windows 8 one one system will then find their 7/Vista/XP systems so clunky by comparison they will end up upgrading them too (just been through this with my laptop).

 

[neocon]

recently installed windows 8 and initially liked it, but now i'm back using 7 as I found it a pain. it looks more pretty and has nice features.

i hate the way i kept being taken away from the desktop.

i can't see many businesses wanting this as they'd need to retrain staff

 

[V F]

Somebody care to explain a retarded UI? because an interface doesn't get input until a user interacts. How many months has passed now? and Minstadave is still grinding on about this.

"Some people can read War and Peace and come away thinking it's a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe."

¬¬

 

[sh33pst3r]

I'd read so many of these anti-Windows 8 comments it's ridiculous. And this is from people using it on a home machine.

The problem with every single one of them, is that they have hardly attempted using it for a period of time. I'm talking 4 weeks of actual usage.

I made the jump to 8 from 7 64bit because of the ability to purchase a copy of Windows legitimately at a very good price. I paid £25 for Windows 8 Pro. When the cost of a home license is reaching £200, everyone questions the upgrade, and don't say you don't.
Getting it on a new machine is different, as an upgrade everyone would prefer that cost to go on hardware.

I stuck with Windows 8. Initially, say in the first week I was shouting at the PC a few times. I can't tell you how long it took me to find the Programs and Features window. But now, I can't stress how much is does make everything easier, post learning the change. I was also a strong user of the Windows key previously, and now by simply pressing the Windows key, typing 'Prog' and then using my arrow keys to select settings, I can be there within 2 seconds as a confident keyboard user.

I can perform tasks faster in 8 than 7.

The built-in AV software is very robust, for that reason only, it worth the upgrade for me. AV alone can cost you £30-40 a year!

I'm not a fan-boy, I'm just stating that with a little persistence you will see the benefits.

 

[Fillado]

The problem with every single one of them, is that they have hardly attempted using it for a period of time. I'm talking 4 weeks of actual usage.

I used it for a few months before ditching it. It's not *bad* it's just all pointless for a traditional computer.

I stuck with Windows 8. Initially, say in the first week I was shouting at the PC a few times. I can't tell you how long it took me to find the Programs and Features window. But now, I can't stress how much is does make everything easier, post learning the change. I was also a strong user of the Windows key previously, and now by simply pressing the Windows key, typing 'Prog' and then using my arrow keys to select settings, I can be there within 2 seconds as a confident keyboard user.

I just did the same in Windows 7. WinKey > Type "Prog" > Two presses of the down arrow key > Enter. Like magic

The built-in AV software is very robust, for that reason only, it worth the upgrade for me. AV alone can cost you £30-40 a year!

That's exactly the same AV that you can download for Windows 7. Windows Defender in Windows 8 = Microsoft Security Essentials.



Even resident Microsoft fanboy Paul Thurrott sees the issues with it!

 

[Elevon]

I used it for a few months before ditching it. It's not *bad* it's just all pointless for a traditional computer.



I just did the same in Windows 7. WinKey > Type "Prog" > Two presses of the down arrow key > Enter. Like magic




That's exactly the same AV that you can download for Windows 7. Windows Defender in Windows 8 = Microsoft Security Essentials.



Even resident Microsoft fanboy Paul Thurrott sees the issues with it!

Traditional computers are from the old days,computers have been evolving now for some time.

Win8 has more then just AV security wise ie,

Secure Boot
Microsoft designed Secure Boot to protect the computer from low-level exploits and rootkits and bootloaders. A security process shared between the operating system and Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI, replacing the BIOS), Secure Boot requires all the applications that are running during the booting process to be pre-signed with valid digital certificates. This way, the system knows all the files being loaded before Windows 8 loads and gets to the login screen have not been tampered with.

If a bootloader has infected your computer and it tries to load during the boot-up sequence, Secure Boot will be able to undo all the changes and thwart the attack. Having Secure Boot means it is that much harder for attackers to try to compromise the start up sequence.

While PC makers have to have Secure Boot enabled in the UEFI firmware by default, if they want to be able to slap the Windows logo outside the box, the feature can be disabled within the UEFI interface. Anyone who wants to install a non-Windows operating system on Windows 8-certified hardware would first have to manually disable SecureBoot.

Loading the AV First
Regardless of whether you are using Windows Defender or a different anti-malware product, Windows 8 has tweaked its load process so that security software runs first. Early Launch Anti-Malware (ELAM) insures that the first software driver loaded into Windows 8 is a driver from the user's anti-malware software.

In previous versions, if the malware executed and was loaded into system memory before the operating system and the antivirus, it was difficult to detect and remove. SecureBoot prevents rootkits from interfering with the OS, and ELAM ensures that pre-approved anti-malware software drivers are loaded before any other application.

SmartScreen

Originally an Internet Explorer security feature, Microsoft added SmartScreen to Windows 8. When a user downloads a program or a file from the Internet, the SmartScreen filter checks to see if other people have downloaded the same file as well. If so, there is a rating for the file based on its popularity and whether it was considered malicious. Users trying to download something with a low rating while Smart Screen is enabled will see a warning message. This can be good for detecting fake antivirus and other rogueware programs.

Since SmartScreen is now part of Windows 8, the filter will kick in regardless of what browser the user is running, not just Internet Explorer.

That's only some features I've listed,point being Win8 offers a lot of useful improvements over Win7 if you can be bothered to do the research.

End of the day Win7 days are numbered ,progress stops for no OS,either stay in the past and get left behind or learn to adapt and move forward.

I look forward to Windows Blue,Win9,10,11 etc before somebody trys to mention poor choice of word like Win8 fanboi.

 

[gareth170]

tbh theres nothing wrong with win8. metro is a good start menu replacement, yes metro need tweaking but has it is now it's good so far.

i do understand why MS have made this OS. people can pick up any device ie desktop pc/laptop/tablet/phone and the layout would be the same on all devices, which makes it easier for people to use.

 

[Minstadave]

i do understand why MS have made this OS. people can pick up any device ie desktop pc/laptop/tablet/phone and the layout would be the same on all devices, which makes it easier for people to use.

Easier to use on a tablet, rubbish on a desktop. You don't use a desktop like a phone. You don't use a tablet like a phone, so why do the OS have to be the same?

But it is DA FUTUR INNIT

I don't get this need to accept subpar crap because its new.

 

[Rroff]

End of the day Win7 days are numbered ,progress stops for no OS,either stay in the past and get left behind or learn to adapt and move forward.

I look forward to Windows Blue,Win9,10,11 etc before somebody trys to mention poor choice of word like Win8 fanboi.

Thats as maybe but that doesn't make Windows 8 a good thing, and why should people adapt if something does what they want how they want to do it - why needlessly adapt to doing something they want in a way they don't want to do it?

 

[Elevon]

Easier to use on a tablet, rubbish on a desktop.

But it is DA FUTUR INNIT

Its damn easy to use on desktop,anyway less then a second to switch between old desktop and Metro,I mentioned how easy it is to customize or add short cuts on either etc 1000x but people still think its hard for some reason.

Point being you many not like Win8 ,but its not rubbish or far from hard to use as a desktop user,I use 99% mouse now on Win8, hardly use keyboard unless I'm typing or gaming.

 

[Elevon]

Thats as maybe but that doesn't make Windows 8 a good thing, and why should people adapt if something does what they want how they want to do it - why needlessly adapt to doing something they want in a way they don't want to do it?

Does not make Win8 bad either,as to adapt we have to sooner or later,remember DOS 6.22?... that went way of dodo and we all adapted to Windows,even that has been changing as we all know,end of the day you may not like Win8 but you have to adapt to every new OS that comes along eventually unless your purpose is to stay in the past for good which I doubt very much,progress is progress and it stops for no-one.I'm not saying you must upgrade to every OS but it does not make it bad either,I see more moaning about Win8 from Win7 users then I do from Win8 users that should tell you something.

I will say it was probably harder for me to adapt then you guys,I was a die hard DOS 6.22 fan that had to adjust from DOS to Windows(which I hated in the early days) however if I can then anybody can especially Windows to Windows.



One thing I do know, don't get too attached to any OS that also includes Win7 since it will come and go,something called progress.

 

[Macro]

Easier to use on a tablet, rubbish on a desktop. You don't use a desktop like a phone. You don't use a tablet like a phone, so why do the OS have to be the same?

But it is DA FUTUR INNIT

I don't get this need to accept subpar crap because its new.

Just because it confuses you doesn't mean it's sub par, just stick with Windows 7 if you don't like change, it's not a problem, W7 is an awesome OS.

 

[Rroff]

Does not make Win8 bad either,as to adapt we have to sooner or later,remember DOS 6.22?... that went way of dodo and we all adapted to Windows,even that has been changing as we all know,end of the day you may not like Win8 but you have to adapt to every new OS that comes along eventually unless your purpose is to stay in the past for good which I doubt very much,progress is progress and it stops for no-one.

I will say it was probably harder for me to adapt then you guys,I was a die hard DOS 6.22 fan that had to adjust from DOS to Windows(which I hated in the early days) however if I can then anybody can especially Windows to Windows.


One thing I do know, don't get too attached to any OS that also includes Win7 since it will come and go,something called progress.

I'm not against progress, but adapting for the sake of adapting is retarded and not progress.

 

[Elevon]

I'm not against progress, but adapting for the sake of adapting is retarded and not progress.

I'm not saying upgrade to every OS,what I'm saying is you have to sooner or later and then you have to adapt to the new OS in question,some people find it easier then others.


As for "the sake of adapting" that depends really for example I've adapted to quite a few Linux Distro's and upgrades just for the sake of it,why?... so I can learn etc...I don't need to use Linux Distro's but did because I wanted to learn and adapt to new things(ie difference between Microsoft and Linux).

 

[gareth170]

Easier to use on a tablet, rubbish on a desktop.

But it is DA FUTUR INNIT

I don't get this need to accept subpar crap because its new.

win8 new ui works very well on desktops. if i can use it without issues everybody else can..

if u want a os just made the way u want it, u will need to make a os yourself.

 

[V F]

Just because it confuses you doesn't mean it's sub par, just stick with Windows 7 if you don't like change, it's not a problem, W7 is an awesome OS.

He doesn't want to though. He's been hounding any Windows 8 thread for months just to be argumentative. He's got a real beef with it. Just shows he wants the latest OS but what he wants he doesn't like. Month and months of whinging about it.

Read his post history.