Windows 8 Consumer Preview Thread

Using W8 for the past 2 days, Total rubbish. How the heck can this work as a user friendly OS? Its in bits and pieces, I mean no start menu and when you have a laptop shut the lid and turn it back on it took me a while how to get off that stupid screen with the clock on to log in. And what's with the new start screen? I am not impressed if this is where we are heading in an OS.

How the heck can I go back to W7? My laptop has no CD drive???

Thanks.

You can load a windows image onto a memory stick and boot from that. That way you can install Windows 7.

Good choice, by the way. I dumped Windows 8 too.
 
You can load a windows image onto a memory stick and boot from that. That way you can install Windows 7.

Good choice, by the way. I dumped Windows 8 too.

I upgraded to W8 so it would keep my personal files probably not the best choice but felt I had no choice. If I got an image can you downgrade within windows? Just felt like I wanted to try and use the OS daily, but I can't I mean it looks the same when in desktop mode but its so different I't will alienate users as it has done to my GF. It's IMO a big step backwards for desktop and normal laptop users, I hope this will not be the final release as I can say hand on heart since MS brought out windows on floppy disks I will not upgrade to the new OS.
 
Compare that to: Start > All Programs > Scrolling down > Adobe > Photoshop

I don't do that on any windows. I usually have the app, on the desktop (looking at me), pinned to the taskbar, or macro'd to my keyboard macro key.

I always have my mostly used short cuts on my desktop. Nothing can be quicker than either, bottom right (win 7) or windows key + d.
 

I think this video is actually quite a fair representation of what will happen. Without people at your side prompting you, the solitary home user will become gradually frustrated before pining for their old installation.

With a new MS OS, word of mouth is key. Most home users don't listen to the critics, they don't read write-ups or visit forums, they listen to their friends - no matter how clueless or clued-up they are. Vista got a bad rap right out the gates, it failed. Everyone thought W7 was amazing straight off the bat, it succeeded. W8 is getting bad press already, so it's not looking good for its future. MS would have to massively overhaul metro to make this succeed. And fast, because metro is the only USP for the home user.
 

I don't like Metro and find it a poor interface for a desktop OS, but I don't think that video is an accurate representation of a user's first experiences with the commercial version.

The consumer preview is lacking the tutorial/education features that Microsoft has planned, for example you can expect that in the final version when someone opens an app for the first time, they will be told/shown how to get back to the Metro start screen. Just as Windows 95 showed users the start menu.

From what I've read there's also likely to be an extensive marketing campaign that will help educate users, so for example TV commercials will show it in use.
 
W8 is getting bad press already, so it's not looking good for its future.

8 is mostly getting good press. On Engadget, Anandtech, The Verge, Techradar, PCadvisor...

Theres some crApple fanboy sites like The Guardian that are more negative, but overall press is good. Many think it's improvement over 7 for the desktop, and possibly the best touch UI around. Most of the negative stuff is on forums like these wheres theres a small but vocal minority who simply cant adapt to change, even when it's a considerable improvement.
Luckily MS are not listening to these idiots. They've learned from mistakes of listening to people like this before, which is why Windows hasn't progressed much UI wise and why Apple have done so well for the last few years because they've been free to innovate. While too many windows users just want things to stay like Windows 95 forever. I hope MS dont even allow an option to disable Metro.
 
Seeing as the desktop runs like a metro app, I can't see things changing from consumer preview to much which is great.

It's very easy to use. People just need to give it a go. As you say small but vocal minority who are just unwilling to change and learn.
 
I posted this in the other thread already but AnandTech has a detailed article about Win 8. Worth reading :)

And i completely agree with this:

The Start menu is gone, but consider this: the best thing that Microsoft did to the Start menu came in Vista, when the new integrated search made it so that you didn’t actually have to go digging through folders and sub-folders. Not only is that search functionality alive and well in Windows 8, but the problem of folders and subfolders that it was created to avoid is also gone.

Yes, Metro is very different from what came before, and yes, Metro was clearly designed with touch in mind, but once you learn its tricks (and especially once you’ve got the new keyboard shortcuts dedicated to memory) it acquits itself as a flexible and powerful user interface. Even if you’re on a massive 2560x1440 display with multiple monitors and never, ever touch the Windows Store or a Metro app, the Start screen serves as a much more configurable and useful application launcher than the tiny Start menu ever was.

I don’t want to say that the Start screen is definitively better for PC users, especially those who rely on Windows 8's sometimes flaky mouse motions, but I strongly disagree with anyone who says that it’s worse. Microsoft has greatly improved Windows’ functionality on tablets (and if you’ve never used Windows 7 or something older on a currently available tablet PC, let me tell you: it isn’t pretty) while not greatly impacting the operating system’s usability on desktops and laptops. Metro's biggest problem right now is going to be what users bring with them: years of accumulated experience about how Windows should look and work. Windows is still Windows, but all of these changes add up to a new interface that is just different enough to spook users who rely on remembered actions to get around their computers, rather than an actual understanding of how and why things work.
 
Seeing as the desktop runs like a metro app, I can't see things changing from consumer preview to much which is great.

It's very easy to use. People just need to give it a go. As you say small but vocal minority who are just unwilling to change and learn.

It isn't the fact people are unwilling to change, Bring on change I'm happy with it but in desktop use. Using the mouse to get to the start menu up is cumbersome & slow compared to just clicking the start icon on the task bar. People say use a keyboard short cut, Well what difference is there from just being able to click? A visual icon that everyone can see, To be honest I'm sure there are people out there that don't even know what the windows key does.

As I said before there is already a gap between the edge of the taskbar & the first icon on the taskbar why not put a little clickable button there like the good old days, Instead of hovering your mouse there hoping it will pop up & stay up so you can click it. Well someone has done that already & I'm using it now & shock horror I still have Metro!
 
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Most of the negative stuff is on forums like these wheres theres a small but vocal minority who simply cant adapt to change, even when it's a considerable improvement.

Adapting to change for the better isn't an issue - the ribbon interfaces make perfect logical sense, and while some complain about them, they are better.

The same cannot be said about Metro. It's better if you're a touch user. It's pretty much exactly the same if you're an frequent user (you'll still hit Start key and start typing). It's worse if you're a power user, but the worst of it is that it's completely unfathomable if you're Joe Average, as the video posted earlier shows.

Providing they actually go for it (we'll be staying with 7) then Metro is going to be a bit of a nightmare for those who, say, work in smaller schools, where most staff aren't computer literate and have learned enough to get by - they're going to have to relearn for no obvious reason and they'll find it frustrating and we'll find it frustrating having to show them again and again.
 
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It isn't the fact people are unwilling to change, Bring on change I'm happy with it but in desktop use. Using the mouse to get to the start menu up is cumbersome & slow compared to just clicking the start icon on the task bar.

... That makes no sense at all :confused: You do realise that getting to the Start screen is exactly the same as getting to the old Start menu is 7? As in - moving the mouse to the bottom left corner of the screen and clicking, so how could the new Start screen possibly be any slower with mouse?

And you dont have to hover your mouse there waiting for a icon to pop up. You can just immediately click in the corner and it works. You seem to think that you actually have to click on the Start screen thumbnail image that appears, but you dont.
 
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